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 Post subject: Re: Piper Cub Discussion
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if you are just interested in the antique taildragger experience, there are several excellent choices.

Most all of which are cheaper, faster, and more comfortable than a Cub.

But if you want a Cub experince, there is nothing else.

I have owned other taildraggers, and loved them, but I kept the Cub.

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 Post subject: Re: Piper Cub Discussion
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Living in Idaho, you must have a tail dragger to truly see all the beautiful country. Idaho has more backcountry airstrips than any state except Alaska. If I could only have one plane I would have to say good bye to my B36TC in order to keep the Super Cub. Flying it low and slow is like wearing wings.


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 Post subject: Re: Piper Cub Discussion
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By the way, for those of you truly interested in all things Cubs, check out:

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Here's a couple of vids we shot from our J-3 down in Florida over Thanksgiving. 1946, 85 HP, open door, bliss:

[youtube:39ttv1ck]http://youtu.be/M2ZTtaijBnM[/youtube:39ttv1ck]

[youtube:39ttv1ck]http://youtu.be/jsoWYmGEmsY[/youtube:39ttv1ck]

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Great Shot Greg. Having a Super Cub must be incredible. I wish mine had your power and agility.

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Living in Idaho, you must have a tail dragger to truly see all the beautiful country. Idaho has more backcountry airstrips than any state except Alaska. If I could only have one plane I would have to say good bye to my B36TC in order to keep the Super Cub. Flying it low and slow is like wearing wings.

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 Post subject: Re: Piper Cub Discussion
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Man, I can hear the wind, the smells. You force me to take the ole bird up in the morning. But doors and windows will be closed. Thanks

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Here's a couple of vids we shot from our J-3 down in Florida over Thanksgiving. 1946, 85 HP, open door, bliss:

[youtube]http://youtu.be/M2ZTtaijBnM[/youtube]

[youtube]http://youtu.be/jsoWYmGEmsY[/youtube]

Enjoy...

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CK,

Awesome videos. Now I REALLY need a fix at Jack Brown's. So, what's the story on your Cub being in Florida? Did you fly it out there for Thanksgiving???

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If I didn't want a CUB badly enough before, I went to the owners' group website and these guys have the funniest jokes on the planet. Check out the one about the Three Little Pigs: http://www.supercub.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=16532. Holy smokes, these guys are great!


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CK,

Awesome videos. Now I REALLY need a fix at Jack Brown's. So, what's the story on your Cub being in Florida? Did you fly it out there for Thanksgiving???

Drew


Glad you enjoyed them. The lake flight is around Orange Lake - about five miles or so north of my Dad's farm strip where we keep the Cub. He and my Mom use the Cub as bait to ensure frequent visits from the granddaughter.

As for flying it to Texas, that's an adventure to consider. We've given thought to having it recovered over at Legend Cub in Sulphur Springs. Biggest impediment to that project is trying to figure out who's gonna take the month off to ferry it out here. And Lord help you if you get a headwind...


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I'm partial to J3's with bigger engines. I had a 85 HP that I rented out for over 1000 hours.

I bought it on the East Coast and flew it back to Oklahoma. 18 hours flight time and 22 airports. One of the best trips I have taken.

Hand proppiing was no big deal because I kept the C85 engine always in tune and well adjusted which made it very predictable. Good magnetos and good carbeurators are key.

Summer procedure was Mags off, pull 2-3 blades through, mags on, throttle cracked 1/4 inch. Double check throttle just cracked. then pull through.
It would always start on the first or second throw and idle at 800 rpm.

I taught my customers how to prop from the rear and had a rule of tieing the tail down when circumstances suggested it.

Later I traded the plane for a wife and couple of kids.

The O-200 is nice but doesn't give much more speed than the 85 and has a bit more fuel consumption. An extra wing tank is nice.

A nifty STC conversion is the 0-200 crank in the C85 case.

By now, most Cubs have been recovered and rebuilt several times, (or should be)
And I see some that were not done like Piper covered them originally. Instead of full span tapes on the control surfaces, Piper used dollar patches. It gives the plane a lighter look.

And its important the painter orients the black lightning bolt properly. Out of place makes it look weird and awkward. And there are a handful of other items one should be aware of.
There were many changes between the pre-war and post-war Cubs.

PA-18's are great too, but not the same as a J3. Taylorcrafts have a wonderful wing and fly great but I don't like the boxed in feeling nor the small windows.

I taught my brother in a 7AC champ but those are not the same as a J3. If you want a 7AC, just get a later model Citabira or Decathalon for more fun and speed.


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Look at this Cub from Cubcrafters.

At 4:07 on the video, they takeoff in about 50 feet!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AhUkjjpSOs


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