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 Post subject: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
PostPosted: 26 Jun 2009, 10:37 
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As part of an exclusive interview conducted just a few hours ago, ANN has learned that Alan Klapmeier is ready to disclose that he is putting together a team to purchase the Cirrus Vision Jet program from Cirrus Aircraft and majority investor Arcapita. With the knowledge and apparent blessing of both entities, Cirrus Co-Founder Klapmeier is raising funds to complete the purchase and development of the single-engine Cirrus Vision jet.

Financial advisers Merrill Lynch, have signed on to provide the necessary financial horsepower to oversee the money side of the equation.

"The transition into this new company will be basically taking the jet program as it exists today, completing the financing and moving forward so that we can get this airplane into production.

Klapmeier notes that he hopes to be in a position to deliver completed aircraft by the end of the 2012 or early 2013. A more extensive statement and interview will be presented shortly.


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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Interesting.....

Personally, I like the numbers on that jet (if someone wants one), but a turboprop really makes a lot more sense.

Hope they do well.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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Interesting.....

but a turboprop really makes a lot more sense.


Well, you're right, but the jet is all about stud points. :popcorn:

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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It's great that it looks like it will actually get built. :thumbup:

It's a shame that Beech didn't get it. :grr:

That thing's got Bonanza written all over it. :rock: :rock: :rock: :rock:


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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If Beech would have bought it, it would have been somewhat poetic. The "V" tail comes back home.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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This is bad news.

That means that Cirrus is in really bad shape. They are selling away their growth product ? Means nothing good to me.


Yvés,

Heck, everyone is in bad shape, it's a matter of "how bad". Hopefully, they'll survive.

Now, I was smart and prepared for the worse.... and bought beer when it was cheap, so I have a stash to pick from......

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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At least they have this to sell...

Anyone think they want to separate this out before they declare bankruptcy?


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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Cash infusion for the parent company without making it look like a cash infusion ?


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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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Beech almost had the 'V' type VLJ 40 years ago. Just needed the FJ44...
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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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Beech almost had the 'V' type VLJ 40 years ago. Just needed the FJ44...
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Lordy... consider the W&B on THAT beauty!

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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Lordy... consider the W&B on THAT beauty!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Hadn't thought of that!

(Perhaps this explains the origination from the art department without a resulting design...)

They needed Photoshop to move the wings back in addition to the FJ44...

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If I were to conjure up a Beech VLJ from existing designs I would start with something like the Duke fuselage with a V-Tail and top mounted turbofan. Move the wing back for CG. Send the thrust out through the current tailcone position for a clean design.

Wish I had photoshop...

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If I were to conjure up a Beech VLJ from existing designs I would start with something like the Duke fuselage with a V-Tail and top mounted turbofan. Move the wing back for CG. Send the thrust out through the current tailcone position for a clean design.

Wish I had photoshop...



Or take the Eclipse approach and put a 500lb weight in the nose.

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 Post subject: Re: Cirrus is selling off the Jet, but not to Beech
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If I were to conjure up a Beech VLJ from existing designs I would start with something like the Duke fuselage with a V-Tail and top mounted turbofan. Move the wing back for CG. Send the thrust out through the current tailcone position for a clean design.

Wish I had photoshop...



Or take the Eclipse approach and put a 500lb weight in the nose.


No, really?

Was this a result of late-in-program change from the Williams powerplants?

Perhaps the Eclipse program was more DOA than I realized!
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Strange. I tried to post a photo and message here, but it didn't show up.

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