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I think they'd sell a lot more single turbines if they could get one out that was priced right.


They are moving the 350/400 production to Mexico. Who knows, maybe they manage to apply the same concept to their SE turboprop from the get-go and translate that into a more competitive price. This will be interesting to watch.


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Mooney of course is the all time worse name for any product every created in the history of the world.
Not quite: ;)

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I'm still scratching my head on how they're going to be able to bolt a turboprop onto a mustang airframe without the prop striking the ground (or at least having very minimal prop ground clearance). The mustang sits really low to the ground.

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You called it Rick.

What's your source? :D


Hey Jason, I saw this in AOPA's email blast last night.

http://www.aopa.org/nbaa/2010/101020mus ... c_sect=gan

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You called it Rick.

What's your source? :D


I know guys in Wichita. It's been seen flying.


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You called it Rick.

What's your source? :D


Hey Jason, I saw this in AOPA's email blast last night.

http://www.aopa.org/nbaa/2010/101020mus ... c_sect=gan

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Rick called it months ago.

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Rick called it months ago.


Yep, just wanted to post a public source of information. Rick has moles...in high and low places.

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Rick called it months ago.


Yep, just wanted to post a public source of information. Rick has moles...in high and low places.

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Indeed.

Rick is "that guy". :D

Now, if he could only find some info on the RR500. ;)

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Now, if he could only find some info on the RR500. ;)


For what it's worth, there's an article on the Robinson R66 in this month's Flying that shows a really nice pic of the RR300 mounted in the back. 200 lbs and pretty tiny as far as turbines go. Interesting that it only has a centrifugal compressor. They apparently removed the axial flow compressor section to shave cost and complexity.

Throw one of those on a Bonanza (or a Cessna for that matter) and we'd be cooking with gas, er. Jet-A.


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I'm still scratching my head on how they're going to be able to bolt a turboprop onto a mustang airframe without the prop striking the ground (or at least having very minimal prop ground clearance). The mustang sits really low to the ground.



IIRC, the Mustang wasn't a true clean sheet design. I believe Pelton mentioned it was derived from a 1990s twin TP design.

Just jack up the gears a few inches. Piece o' cake. :thumbup:


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Now, if he could only find some info on the RR500. ;)


For what it's worth, there's an article on the Robinson R66 in this month's Flying that shows a really nice pic of the RR300 mounted in the back. 200 lbs and pretty tiny as far as turbines go. Interesting that it only has a centrifugal compressor. They apparently removed the axial flow compressor section to shave cost and complexity.

Throw one of those on a Bonanza (or a Cessna for that matter) and we'd be cooking with gas, er. Jet-A.



I did read that article. But that Turbine Robinson isn't exactly cheap.

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Sierra Industries, which re-engines early Citations with Williams FJ44s, is an absolute killer value in the price range ballpark under discussion.

http://www.sijet.com/fj44EagleII_fj44su ... ining.aspx


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Sierra Industries, which re-engines early Citations with Williams FJ44s, is an absolute killer value in the price range ballpark under discussion.

http://www.sijet.com/fj44EagleII_fj44su ... ining.aspx



How much?

I take back what I said about the R66 Helicopter. I jus re-read the article and that RR300 is bad ass and not that expensive.


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