Hi we are looking for an insurance provider for 2 C441, we will like to have open pilot, we have 1 full time pilot 1,400 HR total 500 in turboprop and 250 on C441 whit inicial curse, my partner and myself 500HR total 150 on C441 and 150 in turboprop. we have no plans of solo flying until at least another 150 HR main problem is we leave in Mexico City and flight between MMSM and Miami, we have 1 hangar in each location. any recommendation will be appreciated, our insurance now if from Mexico City but this year they wanted us to have double tripulation and recurring training plus 1500 hr each.

You will always have to have Recurrent Training every 12 months for each pilot.

If not N-Registered the US markets won’t provide the insurance.

If N-Registered and based in Mexico it will be nearly impossible to get coverage.

You are in a tough spot.
Tom

You will always have to have Recurrent Training every 12 months for each pilot.

If not N-Registered the US markets won’t provide the insurance.

If N-Registered and based in Mexico it will be nearly impossible to get coverage.

You are in a tough spot.
Tom

Moises, is aircraft paid for or financed?

If it's paid for and you can afford to take the loss on it in case of accident, why not just get liability only for the US and then sign a separate liability only policy for Mexico?

I pay $1700/year liability only for my Commander and it was easy to get.

It is 100% paid of, we all ready have Liability for all America continent, we wanted to insure the Aircraft, and now that we are getting a second C441 because I am in a partnership and have 2 other partners we think it will be the best to cover all the aircraft.

Technically, one of the drivers of the Cougar or Baron, which a current medical, could legally hop into your plane and fly it. Yes, there are hot starts, 2-3 latency from the throttle movement to making the spinny thing pull you, and the sheer amount of power. However, it is about 2500 pounds under the 12.5k limit. ...and insurance is usually more stringent than the FAA. Miss that annual sim and aircraft training, but get your flight review and ICC in the plane, and the FAA will let you fly all day (under 91). Bend a blade hitting a cone and the insurance company may deny your claim for the prop, engine, and gearbox inspection and repairs.

Annual Pilot training, with a preferred insurance approved provider, is not a legal requirement but an insurance requirement. Some insurance providers are requiring simulator training as well. The underwriters figured out that if you are at one of the approved schools or programs you have less of a chance of damaging the aircraft or hurting the soft-bodied humans and their flammable wood and asphalt homes on the ground. You also have less of a chance of gear up events and, with the simulator training, you have a somewhat realistic environment where you can practice emergencies and build the muscle memory. The bonus is that you won't bend your airplane in training. Obviously, it is beneficial to have both simulator and in-aircraft training and some insurance providers require that as well. However, Tom is the expert.

Isn't much latency on a TPE-331.

basically zero

You could get a flight review in a C-152 and you would technically be qualified to fly a C-441. It doesn't have to be the same type...

Do something fun - adding a SES rating will get you legal for the C441.