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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 26 Mar 2024, 10:07 |
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In FL I'd take it to Sun Aviation at KVRB.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 26 Mar 2024, 13:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'll be looking at a Meridian based in Florida next week. Any recommendations for a pre buy. I know you've given some names , but none are anywhere near Florida. I'll be calling some of them after I see the plane, but is there anyone closer in case they don't want to travel or the seller is not willing to fly the plane to them? Personally I would take the extra effort and get a guy that knows that model to do the pre buy. In PA46 that can be a $200K mistake to have some random look at it. And lots of Randoms say they have the experience with the model, but they don't know what they don't know. The names given in this thread should be your short list and required for pre buy. Unless you are getting a steal of a deal and $200K isn't a big deal then I would take it to the pros. And in my experience there are very few "good" deals in airplanes. If it's cheaper there is a reason. With my PA46 Malibu Aerospace found over $150K in discrepancies during pre buy. I think the purchase price was $375K back then so thats a large percentage of the overall value. Mike
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 27 Mar 2024, 03:57 |
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Joined: 03/13/18 Posts: 292 Post Likes: +272 Location: KPDK; KSGJ
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Flightline in Tallahassee is a good PA46 shop and a Piper service center and dealer- They know these planes well and work on lots of them.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 27 Mar 2024, 09:47 |
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Joined: 02/27/08 Posts: 3262 Post Likes: +1315 Location: Galveston, TX
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Username Protected wrote: In FL I'd take it to Sun Aviation at KVRB. Sun at VRB would be my choice. Usually not a fan of "factory service centers", but Sun is an exception and knows the Malibu product line from beginning to end. Piper builds the Malibu at VRB and access to parts is very good for Sun. I needed a side window for my Malibu and Boeing (former Aviall and Piper parts distributor) said the part was 8 weeks out. Tried all the big Malibu shops and nobody had one on the shelf. Called Sun and they were able to get one from Piper and ship that week. Kevin
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 01 Apr 2024, 17:48 |
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Joined: 03/24/12 Posts: 85 Post Likes: +35
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Username Protected wrote: I'll be looking at a Meridian based in Florida next week. Any recommendations for a pre buy. I know you've given some names , but none are anywhere near Florida. I'll be calling some of them after I see the plane, but is there anyone closer in case they don't want to travel or the seller is not willing to fly the plane to them? Personally I would take the extra effort and get a guy that knows that model to do the pre buy. In PA46 that can be a $200K mistake to have some random look at it. And lots of Randoms say they have the experience with the model, but they don't know what they don't know. The names given in this thread should be your short list and required for pre buy. Unless you are getting a steal of a deal and $200K isn't a big deal then I would take it to the pros. And in my experience there are very few "good" deals in airplanes. If it's cheaper there is a reason. With my PA46 Malibu Aerospace found over $150K in discrepancies during pre buy. I think the purchase price was $375K back then so thats a large percentage of the overall value. Mike Exactly this. You get what you pay for. And a PA46 with a history of light annuals is a $200k bill waiting to happen. Seriously.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 02 Apr 2024, 14:01 |
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Joined: 05/11/16 Posts: 1675 Post Likes: +1376 Location: Tallahassee, FL USA
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Username Protected wrote: Flightline in Tallahassee is a good PA46 shop and a Piper service center and dealer- They know these planes well and work on lots of them. I taxi by their ramp frequently and seems like they are always working on 2 or 3 of these at a time.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 03 Apr 2024, 18:54 |
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Joined: 10/11/10 Posts: 921 Post Likes: +339 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ
Aircraft: A36TN, Meridian
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So I'm about to put a deposit on a Meridian. From the log books it appears very well maintained and all the recurring big ticket items were done in the recent past and shouldn't be due for a while (except for the pilot side windshield). The only issue I can see is that the plane has flown very little in the last nine months (less than 10 hours). Apparently the plane was going to be sold and there was extensive back and forth and the deal eventually fell through so it wasn't flown during this time. (The owner was doing a private sale). Of course I'm going to do a comprehensive prebuy, but is this a major concern? It's not a hangar queen by any stretch and had been flown a couple of hundred hours a year the last few years.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 03 Apr 2024, 21:19 |
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Joined: 03/03/11 Posts: 1928 Post Likes: +1941
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Take it on a long trip and exercise everything. All the warning lights will go out after a while and gauges will all start reading right Cool plane. Hope your deal works out!
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 03 Apr 2024, 23:42 |
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Joined: 08/03/20 Posts: 55 Post Likes: +43
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Sounds like you found the right one. Windshield failure is far less common on Meridian then it is on piston PA46. Less vibration.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 09 Apr 2024, 12:21 |
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Joined: 10/11/10 Posts: 921 Post Likes: +339 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ
Aircraft: A36TN, Meridian
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One more question. I currently fly under Basic Med purely for convenience, less of a PIA than getting a 3rd class medical. My insurance company is fine with Basic Med for the Meridian but do I need the Class 3 medical for the flight levels?
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 09 Apr 2024, 12:32 |
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Joined: 03/07/18 Posts: 151 Post Likes: +104 Location: Woburn, MA
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Username Protected wrote: One more question. I currently fly under Basic Med purely for convenience, less of a PIA than getting a 3rd class medical. My insurance company is fine with Basic Med for the Meridian but do I need the Class 3 medical for the flight levels? Yeah. <250 kt 18,000 feet max 1 pilot + 5 passengers max https://www.faa.gov/licenses_certificat ... /basic_med
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 09 Apr 2024, 13:32 |
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Joined: 08/16/15 Posts: 3118 Post Likes: +4141 Location: Ogden UT
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Meridian does pretty well at 18,000 feet. About 240 KTAS on 44 gph (book says 246), with a no wind IFR reserve range of about 650 nm. If you want pressurization and turbine reliability, this is pretty good. The M600, I think, is the best basic med aircraft. A good bit faster and a lot more range at 18,000 feet. Meridian at FL180 Attachment: DSC05460.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 10 Apr 2024, 09:50 |
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Joined: 03/04/14 Posts: 1863 Post Likes: +832 Location: FREDERICKSBURG TX
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Username Protected wrote: One more question. I currently fly under Basic Med purely for convenience, less of a PIA than getting a 3rd class medical. My insurance company is fine with Basic Med for the Meridian but do I need the Class 3 medical for the flight levels? As long as you qualify for 3rd class, I would do it. You are giving up a lot of speed and range flying it down low. The mission plan for turbines is to climb as high as you can as quickly as you can and stay there as long as you can. Plus you'll want it for getting over some weather enroute.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 10 Apr 2024, 17:10 |
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Joined: 08/23/10 Posts: 861 Post Likes: +670
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It's not even a question. If you have a Meridian and can obtain a 3rd class medical you will do so. It won't take more than a flight or two to convince you of such. Anything over 45 minutes and I'm climbing to the high 20's. Why wouldn't you? Who doesn't like saving fuel/money, going faster and avoiding weather/turbulence? But it is nice having an airframe that is optimal for Basicmed (bested only by the M600/M700), should a medical issue ever arise.
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Post subject: Re: Considering a Meridian Posted: 11 Apr 2024, 06:56 |
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Joined: 10/11/10 Posts: 921 Post Likes: +339 Location: Lincoln Park, NJ
Aircraft: A36TN, Meridian
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I can easily pass a class 3 medical, It's just a PIA for me to get one. I work in a somewhat remote rural area so there are no nearby AME's. I guess I should get one before I start the transition training.
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