Tall and gangly on the ground, super sexy in the air. Glad it landed with no damages.

That is one beautiful Constellation right there. Obvious that a LOT of work went into keeping this bird in terrific condition. Great video, thanks!

My Dad used to take us out to Lockheed in Burbank to watch a production test flight in the mid 50s. They would use runway 15 and close Empire and Vanowen St. to car traffic just in case (they were right at the end of the runway).

One of my Dad's favorite Lockheed aircraft.

Dan

What is it about the Connie's that makes them so beautiful looking in the air?

To me it is the contour of the fuselage. The median line had a curve to it that very much complicated tooling and construction (there is a lot that has been written about this, I won't go into detail here). It was very much a challenge for my Dad in the tooling department.

Also, the triple tail. It all adds up to shear elegance.

Dan

We had EC-121's at Korat. I was not involved with them.

It was said we were practicing chemical warfare because we were depositing oil leakage everywhere.

To me it is the contour of the fuselage. The median line had a curve to it that very much complicated tooling and construction (there is a lot that has been written about this, I won't go into detail here). It was very much a challenge for my Dad in the tooling department.

Also, the triple tail. It all adds up to shear elegance.

Dan

looks like a lack of crew coordination there? Captain was getting a bit frustrated?

There was no, as in zero, crew coordination after the gear came down; instead of a discussion, it was just a majority vote and then telling everyone what they were going to do. Whether "just go land" or "just clear the runway", no one discussed why or why not. What was the hurry?

And, clear the runway with a nose gear (and possible nosewheel steering) malfunction? Stop on the runway and get it pinned and towed! Then, even after they are told the nosewheel was crooked (which they could have known about and accounted for had they done a low pass instead of a landing) and even after they have steering difficulties, barely keeping it on the runway, they still decide to clear? They rolled over at least two taxi lights as best as I can tell as they were clearing the runway and they're lucky they didn't put it in the dirt.

It did look like the Capt was just going along with what they were saying? Who was in charge? No one, or maybe the flight engineer, according to what I saw. That's the same attitude that was present during the Dallas warbird crash; no clear delineation of roles and responsibilities and a lot of on the fly decision-making. And, if there was someone running the show, it was the wrong guy (Air Boss and Flight Engineer).

I believe the flight engineer is Jeff Whitesell a retired 777 Captain. He is a very smart guy and a expert on TBones.

Just saw this one today in Seattle

So beautiful
Not one straight line on that airplane

Did Kelly Johnson have a hand in it’s design?

Didn't say a thing about the man, but from the video as posted are you saying that he acted as would be expected given that resume? Unknown gear issue, they get the gear down, and are in a rush to land and clear the runway? Why? Was that really the best COA? No low pass to alert them to the fact the nosewheel was cocked to the left so they could land on the right side of runway? No consideration to stopping straight ahead on the runway and pinning the gear? Did you hear them all acknowledge they had never seen this before? Could they guarantee the gear wouldn't have collapsed with any side load?

And,do you believe he put all that experience to practice here? In his extensive career, did the responsibilities of Capt go to the most experienced crewmember in the cockpit regardless of position, or was the Capt the Capt. During his time in the 777, was the industry standard rule by committee?

What's with the ivory tower mentality that a certain resume makes the ADM process unassailable? What's the point of you bringing that up if everything in the video says he acted counter to his cumulative experience? I purposefully didn't mention any specific individuals by name because it's irrelevant. Are you concerned that discussing their actions, that they thenselves posted on line for all to see, equates to a personal attack?

The commentary at the end of the video highlighted their expert handling of the situation. Really? If you were the person in charge of that organization, wouldn't you prefer lessons learned from this event and use it as a learning tool going forward.....or would you prefer your crews not discuss multiple COAs and decide on the best one after actual deliberation?

Didn't say a thing about the man, but from the video as posted are you saying that he acted as would be expected given that resume? Unknown gear issue, they get the gear down, and are in a rush to land and clear the runway? Why? Was that really the best COA? No low pass to alert them to the fact the nosewheel was cocked to the left so they could land on the right side of runway? No consideration to stopping straight ahead on the runway and pinning the gear? Did you hear them all acknowledge they had never seen this before? Could they guarantee the gear wouldn't have collapsed with any side load?

And,do you believe he put all that experience to practice here? In his extensive career, did the responsibilities of Capt go to the most experienced crewmember in the cockpit regardless of position, or was the Capt the Capt. During his time in the 777, was the industry standard rule by committee?

What's with the ivory tower mentality that a certain resume makes the ADM process unassailable? What's the point of you bringing that up if everything in the video says he acted counter to his cumulative experience? I purposefully didn't mention any specific individuals by name because it's irrelevant. Are you concerned that discussing their actions, that they thenselves posted on line for all to see, equates to a personal attack?

The commentary at the end of the video highlighted their expert handling of the situation. Really? If you were the person in charge of that organization, wouldn't you prefer lessons learned from this event and use it as a learning tool going forward.....or would you prefer your crews not discuss multiple COAs and decide on the best one after actual deliberation?

Not at all. But, you just happened to post the credentials of the FE directly after my comment about the ovetweighted authority of the FE with absolutely no caveat or indication that it was anything but a response to what I wrote. I summed up with the wrong person, the FE, was in charge of the decisions on that flight and you follow up with the fact that the FE is the smartest Connie guy out there. If that wasn't an intentional reference to what I said, it was at the least a heck of a coincidence.

Past history on the part of some on this site has been to deem certain people so qualified as to be above reproach and to equate questioning their actions to be attacks on them individually....so forgive the jump to an obvious conclusion.