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 Post subject: Syberjet SJ30 (Sino-Swearingen)
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This jet was always a neat proposition. High speed (480kts), long-range (2200 miles), $8.5 million. Does anyone know whether this plane will ever really make it to market? Is there a market? Is it too much of a unicorn?


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This jet was always a neat proposition. High speed (480kts), long-range (2200 miles), $8.5 million. Does anyone know whether this plane will ever really make it to market? Is there a market? Is it too much of a unicorn?



Is Syberjet the new name for Raptor Aircraft? :scratch: :popcorn:


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 Post subject: Re: Syberjet SJ30 (Sino-Swearingen)
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One of the flight test airframes was at San Angelo airport two years ago and I took a look inside. As of then, the program was still alive and proceeding.

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They seemed to have gone dark during the pandemic a couple years ago and never popped back up. I would guess if they ever do reappear and finish certification of the i or x variants, there will be a substantial price increase.

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I thought Morgan Freeman had the only operational airframe and it was repurchased from him recently by the certificate holder?


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Years ago they were supposed to start building these in Martinsburg, WV. ...maybe a quarter of a century ago. I really had hoped that WV would see some aerospace investment between SJ-30 and the resurrected AG-5 Tiger. Surprisingly, both aircraft had previously had Gulfstream involvment. It would have been nice to see them work on them out of Savannah or see Gulfstream build them as a smaller cabin option to compete with Cessna and Learjet. Eventually Gulfstream would invest in the IAI aircraft and have the G100, G200, and G280, all wonderful aircraft. Granted, I haven't been on one in years.


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I thought Morgan Freeman had the only operational airframe and it was repurchased from him recently by the certificate holder?


Not quite. There are (were) 8 or 10 running around.


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The production models sold were earlier versions. They were working towards certification of a new version with significantly upgraded avionics and a second upgrade using newer engines. I believe the 30i and 30x respectively. There were a couple 30i's flying certification test flights pre-pandemic, and they seemed on track for a 2021 certification until the mess, but things seemed to have come to a halt.

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It looks like no SJ30 is actively flying.

SN1 no record.

SN2 no record.

SN3 N110SJ has a weak hit in 2016 near FL that may be just a typo at ATC.

SN4 N404SJ last flew in 2013 to KCDC (Utah).

SN5 N50SJ last flew in 2021 to KSAT (San Antonio).

SN6 N30SJ last flew in Apr 2023 to KVGT (Las Vegas).

SN7 N7SJ had a weak hit in Oct 2022 neat KAUS (Austin), might be ATC typo.

SN8 N200DV last flew Apr 2023 to KSAT (San Antonio).

SN9 no record.

SN10 N830SJ last flew Jul 2022 to KSAT (San Antonio).

Looks like few, maybe none, are in private hands, and none are truly flyable. Most have ended up at KSAT.

I think the project is dead.

The current single pilot longest range jet you can actually get is a Williams converted Citation S550. It can go about 2400 nm. There are about 10 in service.

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It looks like no SJ30 is actively flying.

SN1 no record.

SN2 no record.

SN3 N110SJ has a weak hit in 2016 near FL that may be just a typo at ATC.

SN4 N404SJ last flew in 2013 to KCDC (Utah).

SN5 N50SJ last flew in 2021 to KSAT (San Antonio).

SN6 N30SJ last flew in Apr 2023 to KVGT (Las Vegas).

SN7 N7SJ had a weak hit in Oct 2022 neat KAUS (Austin), might be ATC typo.

SN8 N200DV last flew Apr 2023 to KSAT (San Antonio).

SN9 no record.

SN10 N830SJ last flew Jul 2022 to KSAT (San Antonio).

Looks like few, maybe none, are in private hands, and none are truly flyable. Most have ended up at KSAT.

I think the project is dead.

The current single pilot longest range jet you can actually get is a Williams converted Citation S550. It can go about 2400 nm. There are about 10 in service.

Mike C.

I know for a fact there was one flying in October 2021 in San Angelo Texas. I saw it with my own eyes when it parked at Ranger Aviation. The line guys said it had been coming in and out doing flight testing for a while. No idea why its not showing up.

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I fear that Mike C may be right. A cool design looking for a good manufacturer is a sticky wicket compared to proven design presently built by proven manufacturers like Textron, Gulfstream and Bombardier.


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The owner of the Deja Vu strip club flies a SJ30 dressed in the company logo.

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The owner of the Deja Vu strip club flies a SJ30 dressed in the company logo.


When did it last fly?

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When did it last fly?

N200DV, SN 8.
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Last flew Apr 2023 to KSAT where it presumably still is.

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Several of them collecting at KSAT is interesting. I wonder if they were bought up, or brought there for avionics upgrades in anticipation of receiving certification for the 30i?

According to the ever unreliable Wikipedia the 30i test aircraft are mostly outside the serial number range Mike tracked. I wonder if any of these have been actively flying?

SJ30i, by SyberJet Aircraft; scheduled to be certified by 2021
SJ30-2 with new SyberVision avionics and new Jason Castriota Interior (S/N's 005, 009, 011, 012, 013, and 014); Retrofits (S/N 005).
SJ30x; planned for 2023
SJ30i powered by Williams International FJ44-3AP-25 engines. Begins at S/N 015.

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