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 Post subject: What plane(s) would you like to see built?
PostPosted: 16 Jul 2023, 17:50 
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I'd love to see the original eclipse vison come to pass.
When asked about his regrets Burn Rutan says that Eclipse strayed from its initial vision, and he regrets the direction it went.
In the vision that Burt had is was smaller than the original eclipse and the fuselage was rotomolded...

2nd thing I'd like to see built...
Something twin engine, and pressurized..
My aerostar, only with fully FADEC self managing engines and
half the cost to maintain and burn half the fuel.
(The failed EPS 350 hp diesel would have been cool)
The https://veloceplanes.com/600/ comes pretty close if they can pull it off...

The Velocity V-twin is flying with a pair of the Delta hawk (now certified ) diesels.
They claim 240KTAS and 12GPH...
They also have one flying with a pair of the UL520T motors that is a turbocharged version of the motor dark aero selected. A pressurized version of this would be cool...


Hell a 50% scale B-29 with 4 seats pressurization and 4 deltahawk or 4 UL520T would be pretty dam cool...


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I recommend you read what you wrote when sober and try again.

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>I recommend you read what you wrote when sober and try again.
I don't drink I'm stone cold sober...
( I realize it would be less scary if I wasn't sober)

I've really enjoyed 16,500 and 17500 in the aerostar.
No one at that altitude, you can go straight over most class B.
You can listen to the SXM radio and not need to talk to anyone unless the weather is crappy...
It would be nice to have that capability with modern engines, and lower fuel burn.
The Lancair IV-P is pretty close, but it has a horrible accident record and a plane that fast is going to have issues if the big fan in front stops spinning... (Hence I want a twin)


The short version some modern traveling machine that does not cost 5M$.
Also the fact that self serve avgas at my home field is now $8.21 a gal is making the Aerostar significantly less fun.


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Bonanza sized 6 place tri-plane with 3x 100hp engines that can run on autogas with the total fuel burn and overhaul cost of a single Cont-550.

If a critical engine fails on takeoff, I want the plane to continue climbing on 2 engines even with the failed engine unfeathered.

Emergency engine inop procedures would be in the following order...

1) Maintain blueline or above...
2) Raise gear
3) Raise flaps
4) Within the next 10-15 minutes, identify the failed engine and feather prop or just return and land.


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>A Lancair! Oh wait, I already built one of those (Can you tell I'm proud?):
If a kit were available I'd really consider an ES-P as pretty close to perfect...
Would like another engine, but...


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210 R model, both turbo and NA. Best of the breed.


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Pressurized Velocity V-Twin, either 4 or 6 seats.


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>Pressurized Velocity V-Twin, either 4 or 6 seats.

Quote from the guy Duane that runs velocity...

We don’t pressurize any of our aircraft due to the added weight and liability associated with the pressurization system. (Lancair as an example) Ever wonder why Cessna gave up on the pressurized Skymaster, 210 and all the piston engine twins that were pressurized? What about Beech and the pressurized Baron and Bonanza? Either the market was not there or pressurizing a piston engine airplane was just not a good idea. In any case, we have no plans to pressurize the present line of Velocity aircraft.


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I would like to see more piston twin experimentals, such as the:

Double Ender
Gweduck

And I'd love if someone would just come up with a kit carbon fibre Turbo Commander or Avanti. That would be absolutely awesome! But the new Velocity Twin XL is a great addition in that vain.

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>Pressurized Velocity V-Twin, either 4 or 6 seats.

Quote from the guy Duane that runs velocity...

We don’t pressurize any of our aircraft due to the added weight and liability associated with the pressurization system. (Lancair as an example) Ever wonder why Cessna gave up on the pressurized Skymaster, 210 and all the piston engine twins that were pressurized? What about Beech and the pressurized Baron and Bonanza? Either the market was not there or pressurizing a piston engine airplane was just not a good idea. In any case, we have no plans to pressurize the present line of Velocity aircraft.

I had the same conversation with Duane back at OSH ‘21.

It’s too bad, because I think it would be an excellent family traveler.


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Hell a 50% scale B-29 with 4 seats pressurization and 4 deltahawk or 4 UL520T would be pretty dam cool...

I'd rather see a scale Lockheed Constellation instead of a B-29, but that is just me.

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Hell a 50% scale B-29 with 4 seats pressurization and 4 deltahawk or 4 UL520T would be pretty dam cool..
I'd rather see a scale Lockheed Constellation instead of a B-29, but that is just me.

Dan[/quote]

About 2 min in you will see it. He wanted to build a Constellation but the fuselage lofting was too complex and B-29 Nacelles fit his engine better.

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1. Build another Global Explorer. See video above

2. Supercub / PA-12 type that is setup for covering with Sailcloth material instead of glued on fabric. Cover in a weekend not months. Open for repair and reinstall. But not tube spars or batten ribs. Full wing ribs with extruded I beam spars. Attach fabric to ribs with similar method to AN-2.

3. 172 type with easy access to front seats and optimized for mass production. (Cessna 162 prototype still exists).

4. 450-500hp Piston engine that operates at lower RPM for longer propeller than an IO-720 can swing. Mate to original vision of Sherpa

5. 2, 4 6 place passenger cabin that has been drop and swing tested for crash survivability that is a starting point to continue engineering wings and tail for different airplanes.

6. Piston Replacement for Cessna Piston twins that is not slower with less useful load.


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