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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 24 Mar 2023, 09:59 |
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Joined: 05/17/11 Posts: 1762 Post Likes: +1087 Location: KFRG
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Username Protected wrote: 421C will finally be done next week….anxious to get flying it. I have 25 hrs all at 8000’ b/c we had a temp adsb. Looks great Chad! What is that display backup switch for?
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 24 Mar 2023, 10:08 |
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Joined: 05/17/11 Posts: 1762 Post Likes: +1087 Location: KFRG
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The 421 is very comfortable for passengers. Attachment: F7DC2D57-BB76-4CF7-87F2-63A464BFC00A.jpeg Attachment: D2D9BC0D-D6B0-4CB6-8CF8-CEC7639C3CDE.jpeg
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 25 Mar 2023, 15:33 |
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Joined: 11/01/22 Posts: 21 Post Likes: +13 Location: ESSB
Aircraft: Baron 58 KingAir 350
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what kind of speeds and fuel burns do you get mid to high teens ? Do you find it hard to get parts?
I fly a baron 58 and a king air 350 but looking at a 414a also been looking at 340 but need a potty.
what should I look out for when looking at these aircraft? and any other info if you have it
//Johan
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 25 Mar 2023, 20:45 |
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Joined: 11/07/22 Posts: 116 Post Likes: +83
Aircraft: 414A
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Username Protected wrote: what kind of speeds and fuel burns do you get mid to high teens ? Do you find it hard to get parts?
I fly a baron 58 and a king air 350 but looking at a 414a also been looking at 340 but need a potty.
what should I look out for when looking at these aircraft? and any other info if you have it
//Johan 38/hr on fuel flow and around 190-200 on the speeds. Parts haven’t been a problem for me. I broaden the horizons by looking at new, refurbished, or salvage. Always bought new though. Known a lot of guys that have gone salvage and been really surprised at the success they have had.
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 25 Mar 2023, 21:29 |
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Joined: 11/08/12 Posts: 210 Post Likes: +89
Aircraft: Cessna 340A; C172
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Username Protected wrote: Looks great Chad! What is that display backup switch for? That is for the ‘275 backup display. If you chose another page on the 275 display during flight and have to quickly return to the ADI page that switch gets you there. It is a requirement of the STC.
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 25 Mar 2023, 22:30 |
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Joined: 05/17/11 Posts: 1762 Post Likes: +1087 Location: KFRG
Aircraft: 421C
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Username Protected wrote: Looks great Chad! What is that display backup switch for? That is for the ‘275 backup display. If you chose another page on the 275 display during flight and have to quickly return to the ADI page that switch gets you there. It is a requirement of the STC.
I believe with Class III installations the backup must remain in ADI mode and all other pages are disabled.
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 26 Mar 2023, 11:00 |
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Joined: 05/11/11 Posts: 150 Post Likes: +181 Company: Technik Packaging Machinery Location: Atlanta, GA area
Aircraft: Cessna 414
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Username Protected wrote: I believe with Class III installations the backup must remain in ADI mode and all other pages are disabled. That is correct and that is exactly why I don’t have one in my 414. That plus the much higher cost of the Class III version. Let’s see - higher cost and reduced functionality. What a sales concept Garmin.
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 26 Mar 2023, 11:00 |
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Joined: 05/11/11 Posts: 150 Post Likes: +181 Company: Technik Packaging Machinery Location: Atlanta, GA area
Aircraft: Cessna 414
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Username Protected wrote: I believe with Class III installations the backup must remain in ADI mode and all other pages are disabled. That is correct and that is exactly why I don’t have one in my 414. That plus the much higher cost of the Class III version. Let’s see - higher cost and reduced functionality. What a sales concept Garmin.
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 26 Mar 2023, 11:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: I believe with Class III installations the backup must remain in ADI mode and all other pages are disabled. That is correct and that is exactly why I don’t have one in my 414. That plus the much higher cost of the Class III version. Let’s see - higher cost and reduced functionality. What a sales concept Garmin. Blame the FAA, not Garmin.
That's one small advantage of the 340 - it was certified at 5,990 lbs so it's class II and avionics are significantly cheaper. STCs that change the gross weight to more than 6,000 lbs do not bump the plane up to class III.
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 26 Mar 2023, 16:37 |
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Joined: 07/06/14 Posts: 3014 Post Likes: +1995 Location: MA
Aircraft: Cessna 340A
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Username Protected wrote: Let’s see - higher cost and reduced functionality. What a sales concept Garmin. Blame the FAA, not Garmin. That's one small advantage of the 340 - it was certified at 5,990 lbs so it's class II and avionics are significantly cheaper. STCs that change the gross weight to more than 6,000 lbs do not bump the plane up to class III. Garmin is in control of half of that equation -- they could reduce the price of a 275 crippled because it is a backup instrument. But I suppose they can't control someone moving the instrument to a new location without paying the up-charge.
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Post subject: Re: AMA I Own and Fly the Cessna 414A Posted: 27 Mar 2023, 10:30 |
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Joined: 11/07/22 Posts: 116 Post Likes: +83
Aircraft: 414A
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Username Protected wrote: I believe with Class III installations the backup must remain in ADI mode and all other pages are disabled. That is correct and that is exactly why I don’t have one in my 414. That plus the much higher cost of the Class III version. Let’s see - higher cost and reduced functionality. What a sales concept Garmin.
My panel is almost exactly like Chad's. My 275 has all pages disabled except for the ADI Mode. I was looking forward to the functionality of the 275 but a class III install limits it.
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