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Post subject: Re: 501SP Financing Posted: 05 Mar 2023, 21:15 |
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Joined: 05/05/09 Posts: 5162 Post Likes: +5122
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Username Protected wrote: Does anyone know of a lender for the 501SP? Try Dorr Patrick Fallon Dorr Aviation Credit Corp., LLC 579 Pleasant St., Suite 4 Paxton, MA 01612 Main Phone - 508-731-6450 Toll Free - 800-214-0066 Direct Phone - 508-731-6452 Main Fax - 508-363-1700 www.dorraviation.com
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Post subject: Re: 501SP Financing Posted: 05 Mar 2023, 21:22 |
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Joined: 08/13/20 Posts: 226 Post Likes: +177 Location: KLOU/KJVY
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Also try your local banking relationship. Has worked for me several times. They don't know much about airplanes, but they know me.
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Post subject: Re: 501SP Financing Posted: 06 Mar 2023, 01:25 |
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Joined: 11/19/15 Posts: 1538 Post Likes: +1454 Company: Centurion LV and Eleusis Location: Draper UT KPVU-KVNY
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Username Protected wrote: Thanks gents.
@Pyle - do you know if they require an engine program / TAPS?
I’ll give the local guys a try. My problem there is its Chase bank. Not sure. Mine is on program but never asked if they will do without. I wanted to find a plane on program and only tried to finance that. I also had my previous 421 with Dorr so that helped. Mike
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Post subject: Re: 501SP Financing Posted: 06 Mar 2023, 01:50 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19933 Post Likes: +25005 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: do you know if they require an engine program / TAPS? No stock 501 is on an engine program that I know of. I seriously doubt any are. The FJ44 converted ones, Stallions and Eagle II, are generally on an engine program, though there are exceptions. If the bank requires an engine program, then they aren't lending money on stock 501s. I expect that if the loan to value reflects engine status, then I expect they won't care about an engine program, but this is speculation. I would wonder about someone buying a $500K airplane, which might cost $150K/year to fly ~100 hours or so, and not having enough money to buy it outright. Is there enough cash reserve to deal with unexpected events? Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: 501SP Financing Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 12:45 |
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Joined: 07/17/15 Posts: 545 Post Likes: +531 Location: KSRQ
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Username Protected wrote: do you know if they require an engine program / TAPS? No stock 501 is on an engine program that I know of. I seriously doubt any are. The FJ44 converted ones, Stallions and Eagle II, are generally on an engine program, though there are exceptions. If the bank requires an engine program, then they aren't lending money on stock 501s. I expect that if the loan to value reflects engine status, then I expect they won't care about an engine program, but this is speculation. I would wonder about someone buying a $500K airplane, which might cost $150K/year to fly ~100 hours or so, and not having enough money to buy it outright. Is there enough cash reserve to deal with unexpected events? Mike C.
Maybe they feel they can do better with their capital than they are paying the bank.
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Post subject: Re: 501SP Financing Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 13:54 |
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Joined: 12/03/14 Posts: 19933 Post Likes: +25005 Company: Ciholas, Inc Location: KEHR
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Username Protected wrote: Maybe they feel they can do better with their capital than they are paying the bank. Given aircraft interest rates these days, a bit of a gamble. I suspect aircraft rates have to be mortgage rates plus 2% or so, right? 15 year mortgage rates at ~6.5% now, so maybe 8.5% for an aircraft loan? This is another reason to find lower hull value airplanes to buy even if the operating costs are higher per hour. A $400K loan on a 501SP is $34,000 per year. A $1.2M loan on a Meridian is $102,000. That difference buys a LOT of fuel! Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: 501SP Financing Posted: 10 Mar 2023, 14:18 |
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Joined: 01/17/21 Posts: 92 Post Likes: +42
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Most people don't look at it that way Mike C. If they can afford the monthly payment & put fuel in it . It's affordable.
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