BeechTalk - BT - T-51 Mustang ?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 13:35

Anybody know anything about the homebuilt T-51 Mustang with a Honda Pilot 3.5 V6? There's one on Barnstormers for $175,000. Looks cool, but also looks like a good plane for me to break my neck in, not being a tailwheel pilot.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 13:56

Check the accident record. Scaled, experimental P51s seem to crash a lot.

I’m offering no analysis of why. Just observing that I have seen more reports than I would expect.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 14:19

Username Protected wrote:

Check the accident record. Scaled, experimental P51s seem to crash a lot.

I’m offering no analysis of why. Just observing that I have seen more reports than I would expect.

I would probably add to that statistic if I tried to fly one. Evergreen Airlines had a really nice P-51 that they kept down at Marana for awhile. A very famous female acro air show pilot came down to Marana to take the plane up, and she ground looped it. :eek:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 14:26

Username Protected wrote:

...with a Honda Pilot 3.5 V6?

Really?!

PSRU?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 14:36

Username Protected wrote:

...with a Honda Pilot 3.5 V6?

Really?!

PSRU?

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 14:45

Propeller Speed Reduction Unit?
Auto-engine conversions probably require a gearbox. That said, I can’t find PSRU listed in the ad (I probably need new glasses!)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 15:04

There are several PSRU's to pick from.
Some with a cogged belt, some with gears.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 17:12

Go into it assuming insurance is not available.
As mentioned above scaled Mustangs have had a history.
Also Auto engines in airplanes have had a history.
* The sum is worse than each "component part" in the insurance game.

Tj

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 17:18

The nose to mains looks way too long, while the mains to the tail looks way too short.......I don't KNOW, academically if this is a problem, but, it looks like one to me.

Then there is the engine..........(although, Honda was probably a great choice for longevity/durability.....)

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 18:08

wow that's a lot of money for a 1-seater with a car engine

for a single seater, I'd much rather have an RV3 or Onex vs that thing

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 18:33

Username Protected wrote:

Check the accident record. Scaled, experimental P51s seem to crash a lot.

I’m offering no analysis of why. Just observing that I have seen more reports than I would expect.

I would probably add to that statistic if I tried to fly one. Evergreen Airlines had a really nice P-51 that they kept down at Marana for awhile. A very famous female acro air show pilot came down to Marana to take the plane up, and she ground looped it. :eek:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 18:37

From my eye either the MLG is too long or the fuselage is to short. That 3 point attitude means you have a long arc of pitch rotation where P Effect is trying to turn you sideways. Doesn't look like a 3 pointer is doable.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 24 Jan 2023, 19:31

Username Protected wrote:

From my eye either the MLG is too long or the fuselage is to short. That 3 point attitude means you have a long arc of pitch rotation where P Effect is trying to turn you sideways. Doesn't look like a 3 pointer is doable.

Similar view after 1st run on new O/H motor. Uggg!!!!!

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