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We have a comfortable life here in the first world on earth....
Given that:
Humans are explorers....

History has lots of example of people leaving comfort for an uncertain future in an inhospitable place.

The "Comfortable Normal" people all thought these people were crazy too....

Comfortable normal is boring to adventurous people. To them, adventure makes their lives more worthwhile and they are willing to take the risk to experience it.

Flying is an adventure.

The first people to land on Mars will be fully aware of the risks.

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Remember we only need about one out of a hundred million people to be willing to go on the first mission. I'm convinced there will be no trouble finding them


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The rocket exploding is not the mishap.

Throwing concrete boulders 1/2 mile and dust for 6 miles is the mishap.

The lack of adequate FTS is also a serious issue. Indeed, the fact the rocket DIDN'T blow up properly is far more serious than the fact it DID.


Well, there was a distinct possibility that it could've blown up ON the pad. If that happened, there would have been way more rocks and dust and metal flying around. FAA was surely aware of that possibility, and they obviously did not consider it to be a problem, since they cleared it for launch.

FTS - yes, that's an issue, it will have to be re-engineered and re-qualified, Elon said as much.


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I vote we send Congress and the Kardashians.

I thought that we wanted it to be a successful mission.

... I suppose it all depends on your definition of success.

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I vote we send Congress and the Kardashians.

I thought that we wanted it to be a successful mission.

... I suppose it all depends on your definition of success.

from the late 1700's to the mid 1800's, England sent nearly 200k people on successful missions to Australia

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from the late 1700's to the mid 1800's, England sent nearly 200k people on successful missions to Australia

To be fair, with Congress we get what we vote for, and thereby what we deserve.

Kardashians can be ignored if we choose. Again, we get what we deserve.

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To be fair, with Congress we get what we vote for, and thereby what we deserve.

Without getting too political, our two party system seems committed to providing only bad choices.

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I vote we send Congress and the Kardashians.

That is one way to increase the total sum IQ of both planets!

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I vote we send Congress and the Kardashians.

That is one way to increase the total sum IQ of both planets!


Several scifi books take the tack that once there is interplanetary or interstellar travel, that the best and brightest leave and Earth becomes a backwater.

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Several scifi books take the tack that once there is interplanetary or interstellar travel, that the best and brightest leave and Earth becomes a backwater.

Count me among the dumb then. Jethro and I will be staying right here.


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SpaceX apparently recently tested an updated FTS:

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We had some discussion about the “fling” maneuver that SpaceX has planned for stage separation. @Mike C wasn’t on board with the physics of it. Here is a video describing how it hopefully will work, and hopefully describes the physics better than my “flip” description did.

[youtube]https://youtu.be/yesni8HUEA4[/youtube]

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