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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 06 Nov 2022, 12:13 |
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Joined: 03/28/17 Posts: 6690 Post Likes: +8029 Location: N. California
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Username Protected wrote: If I wanted to buy a plane to just dork around in, low and slow, ideally with doors open or removed, what's the best option for +/-$100k? Tailwheel or not, open to anything, new or old. For safety, the Piper Cub; it can just barely kill ya. Low and slow is fun, but the risk of power lines and towers rises significantly.
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 06 Nov 2022, 14:26 |
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Joined: 11/16/10 Posts: 9067 Post Likes: +7382 Location: Buffalo MN KCFE
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Username Protected wrote: If I wanted to buy a plane to just dork around in, low and slow, ideally with doors open or removed, what's the best option for +/-$100k? Tailwheel or not, open to anything, new or old. For safety, the Piper Cub; it can just barely kill ya. Low and slow is fun, but the risk of power lines and towers rises significantly.
But get one with electric start. IMO, hand propping and no electric is a deal killer for a “have fun airplane” Simple Garmin Aera with terrain tied to audio keeps you about 900 agl and out of the power lines, just listen to her.
Greg
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 06 Nov 2022, 15:03 |
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Joined: 03/17/18 Posts: 498 Post Likes: +281 Location: KDAY
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Loving these ideas, all, thanks for providing me with these options. Tony, your new plane sounds awesome, congrats
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 09:02 |
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Joined: 06/30/22 Posts: 1399 Post Likes: +739 Location: 0W3
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Yellow Super Cub. I used to rent one. With the window open, you can fly low over people and they wave and smile. Do the same in most other planes and they are videoing and calling the FAA. BirdDog would another fun one.
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 09:24 |
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One way to really enjoy low and slow is to fly something with a lot of adverse yaw, limited visibility, controls that haven't been harmonized to perfection, simple avionics, etc. Doing that in a relatively inexpensive aircraft that also preserves more aviation history, creates the opportunity for interesting discussions on the ramp and isn't commonplace and therefore relatively expensive (i.e. a Cub) is something to consider.
Here are some planes that fit that kind of description:
Porterfield Collegiate (skinny bird) Aeronca Champ, Chief Piper Clipper Piper Tripacer (well not a tw but otherwise qualifies) Stinson 108 Taylorcraft Interstate Cadet Rearwin Skyranger Luscombe Swift Fairchild 24 (really nice one on Barnstormers currently)
There are others but these are all representative. Some have motors which aren't as common as they used to be (like a Franklin or Warner) but generally there is good support. You live in an area with lots of fabric expertise as well. You can find a nice example of all but the Swift and Fairchild for under 50K. The latter two certainly under 100k. Some of the ergonomics are interesting so you have to try them on.
_________________ Travel Air B4000, Waco UBF2,UMF3,YMF5, UPF7,YKS 6, Fairchild 24W, Cessna 120 Never enough!
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 09:31 |
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Joined: 11/03/08 Posts: 14572 Post Likes: +22945 Location: Peachtree City GA / Stoke-On-Trent UK
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for 100k, that would buy 4-5 aeronca champs. Perhaps the best low&slow sightseeing classic
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 09:32 |
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Joined: 09/02/09 Posts: 8452 Post Likes: +8428 Company: OAA Location: Oklahoma City - PWA/Calistoga KSTS
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I did make the comment, which someone else did as well, that an open cockpit biplane wouldn't be a great year round choice where you live. But, you cannot beat open cockpit flying and you do have an embarrassment of riches in your part of the country for such flying - lots of grass and 6 months of moderate weather.
For your budget you can find:
- WACO RNF -Great Lakes (I looked at a beautiful one in Michigan this spring that hasn't sold) -Hatz -Stearman
_________________ Travel Air B4000, Waco UBF2,UMF3,YMF5, UPF7,YKS 6, Fairchild 24W, Cessna 120 Never enough!
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 11:21 |
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Joined: 10/04/19 Posts: 653 Post Likes: +400 Company: Capella Partners Location: Alpine Airpark, 46U
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I have to throw the short-wing Piper's hat in the ring! (Pacer, Vagabond, Clipper, Colt) 1) Far more handsome than their tri-pacer cousins 2) Can be had in 2-seat or 4-seat liveries 3) SxS seating is my preference - maybe it's yours too (even if no pax, nice to leave a bag or iPad next to you) 4) Can be had from 100 to 200 horses 5) Inexpensive to buy and fly 6) Dead simple airframe with well-known quirks (fuel system) 7) Absolutely intolerant of side-loaded landing, short coupled, and impossible to direct in flight without rudder 8) Freaking adorable 9) Great community ( https://shortwingpiperclub.org/about-us/what-we-fly/) Best, -J
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 07 Nov 2022, 23:51 |
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Joined: 03/17/18 Posts: 498 Post Likes: +281 Location: KDAY
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This makes me think of Brent. He owned an A36 I put into prebuy but passed on. He also had a Waco. His dream was to take his sweet time flying the Waco from KY to CA, then up and down the coast. Yes, life is meant to be slow and open air.
I like this idea more and more each day.
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Post subject: Re: Best plane to fly low and slow Posted: 08 Nov 2022, 12:12 |
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I've had a j-3 with a c85 that i converted to a stroker for about 20 years, they are about a third of cost of supercubs these days.
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