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 Post subject: Re: Citation Jacks in LA Area
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Ferry permit? Is that because you can't make the OEI climb gradient with the gear down?

Inoperative gear in not the MMEL, so the plane in unairworthy if the gear can't swing.

The only relief in the MMEL for landing gear is anti ski inoperative.

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Makes sense. Gear down would invalidate a lot of numbers in the manual.

I suppose it would be too complicated to write a one-size-fits-all exception like "May be inoperative provided flight is not conducted in icing conditions and flight planning must consider increased fuel burn, decreased range, decreased OEI climb gradient", etc. because a pilot wouldn't be able to know exactly to what extent having the gear down changes those numbers. So the FSDO probably wants to see everything on a case-by-case basis.

Would be interesting to see Mike T's ferry permit and what the limitations were.
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 Post subject: Re: Citation Jacks in LA Area
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Ferry permit? Is that because you can't make the OEI climb gradient with the gear down?

Inoperative gear in not the MMEL, so the plane in unairworthy if the gear can't swing.

The only relief in the MMEL for landing gear is anti ski inoperative.

Mike C.


Need to be on a ferry permit if you are going to have the gear down.

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