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Saw this on the internet today, lead story calls it a Sampson Switchblade, I am familiar with that it is a US Flying car. This looks to be from Europe but it is flying. Story suggests FAA has given approval, this on a European aircraft?

https://youtu.be/jf3I0ORN3ac

Samson Switchblade article claims Switchblade electric VTOL approved for flight, Switchblade is neither electric or VTOL.
https://www.bing.com/ck/a?!&&p=593c80cb ... dG1s&ntb=1

Like Abe Lincoln said, you cannot always believe what you see in the internet.


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 Post subject: Re: Another flying car
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I'm sorry but to me that just looks stupid in the air and on the ground.

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 Post subject: Re: Another flying car
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Your links show two different cars/planes. . . .


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I can't open the links but I might suggest they need a new name. People won't want to ride on something that is going to crash itself into a tank.


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Links worked for me.

The switchblade looks very interesting to me. With my commute, this concept could work most days. Short drive, short flight, short drive.


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Links worked for me.

The switchblade looks very interesting to me. With my commute, this concept could work most days. Short drive, short flight, short drive.

I'd find it a lot more appealing if it were possible to just lift off from the road when you got stuck in a traffic jam. :D

I wonder how much insurance would cost once the underwriters discover that a minor fender bender could result in a $100k+ damage claim?

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Flying cars make no sense to me. You end up with a terrible car mashed up with a terrible airplane and it costs more than both combined. Reminds me of the boat cars, same thing - crappy car that floats.

Now a spaceship submarine, that I would like to see.


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Really can't say much about any of these without knowing the useful load, and *measured* flight performance. Its easy to say your new flying car will cruise at 200mph on a 1.6 liter engine, but the pictures don't look very aerodynamic relative to say a bonanza which does 200mph on a ~300hp engine (cruising at ~200hp).

The videos show something (well 2 different things) that doesn't have a lot of wing and a body that looks like it has a lot of parasitic drag.

Of course who knows how much power they are claiming for a 1.6L engine, but it its above 200 continuous cruise HP, that also seems surprising if you want a >1000 hour TBO


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Update to an old post. First test flight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3SpMa6k8Kk&t=6s

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Looks like they are now claiming a 160mph at 9.5gph cruise on their website at 1850 max gross. I don't see a useful load


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Looks like they are now claiming a 160mph at 9.5gph cruise on their website at 1850 max gross. I don't see a useful load


575 lbs, not easy to find: https://www.samsonsky.com/models/. In the neighborhood of a C152.

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I don't see a useful load

It has one? The hybrid drive train will be seriously heavy.

There is some cleverness to the design but from a business point of view, nobody wants a bad car and a bad airplane.

Good airplane + Uber beats this every day.

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575 lbs

That is in "brochure world", not the real one.

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And it’s an experimental so won’t be available fully functional off the shelf.

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There is some cleverness to the design but from a business point of view, nobody wants a bad car and a bad airplane.

Good airplane + Uber beats this every day.

Mike C.

The only use case I can see for a roadable airplane is for a VFR pilot to land and drive part way on a trip to avoid IMC. With a vehicle like this you could legally and fairly safely scud run at zero AGL.

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