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Post subject: Re: SOCOM chooses the AT-802 for armed overwatch  Posted: 05 Aug 2022, 07:10 |
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"This deal strikes me as throwing a bone to L3/Air Tractor to get them to drop their lawsuit over the competition with the AT-6 and A-29." The C-145B seems a lot more capable to me and AFSOC already operates the C-145A  https://www.sncorp.com/what-we-do/mc-145b-coyote/
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Post subject: Re: SOCOM chooses the AT-802 for armed overwatch Posted: 05 Aug 2022, 09:29 |
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"But nobody’s cheaper with or meaner to an airplane than a crop-duster and air tractor has been refining that design for decades" If only that were ever selection criteria for military aircraft procurement. And I'd offer that the C-145B is a Russian legacy design also refined over decades. They are fairly well known for being cheap and mean on aircraft. 
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Post subject: Re: SOCOM chooses the AT-802 for armed overwatch Posted: 05 Aug 2022, 14:35 |
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Username Protected wrote:
The U-28 is a capable aircraft. But, without getting into specific capabilities, there's more to those missions than just strike platforms.
The United States operates armed PC12's? Can this be answered true or false?
Not sure if this is a Pilatus thing or a Swiss thing, but Pilatus aircraft are prohibited from being armed.
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Post subject: Re: SOCOM chooses the AT-802 for armed overwatch Posted: 06 Aug 2022, 09:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Pilatus offers a wide array of armaments for their aircraft. The PC-9M is a very capable combat platform that comes with 7 or so hard points. It carries rockets, bombs, gun pods, etc. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilatus_PC-9Interesting, I guess I was told something that was incorrect. Imagine that!
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Post subject: Re: SOCOM chooses the AT-802 for armed overwatch Posted: 08 Aug 2022, 13:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: How is the AF going to handle tailwheel training? I imagine that USAF will handle it just fine. 1:5 proposed squadrons is a training squadron. It is already a 2-place aircraft and Air Tractor already sells a dual control model.
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Post subject: Re: SOCOM chooses the AT-802 for armed overwatch Posted: 08 Aug 2022, 13:37 |
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Username Protected wrote: How is the AF going to handle tailwheel training? I imagine that USAF will handle it just fine. 1:5 proposed squadrons is a training squadron. It is already a 2-place aircraft and Air Tractor already sells a dual control model.
Yup, don't know if the AT-802U is dual control, but as you mentioned, AT has both tandem and side by side, dual control aircraft.
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