I put this under Brand X because it is the broadest, but it seems that parts issues are hitting every model of aircraft, from every manufacturer.

One of our clients mentioned earlier that it seems that Textron has more issues than the other manufacturers, but I explained that is likely just perception because they probably support more airframes than all of the other manufacturers put together.

I don't want this to be a thread to bash any manufacturer or airplane, but a place to share knowledge and hopefully be able to help each other out.

True story, I met a guy on a Southwest flight back from Florida, I saw his airport badge, so we started talking. The conversation turned to supply chain issues, I mentioned that Hawker tires were unobtanium, he replied "I can get you tires!"

Sure enough, a week later my client had a set of tires!

We are currently AOG waiting for a King Air windshield, I never thought I would type that!

We can get a used one, I've done it many times for legacy Citations, but at $10k for a new King Air windshield it never made sense to source and test a used one.

It’s the relationship with vendors

They order 100 and want 10 per month scheduled delivery, then wait to get paid in 90 days

Vendors often no bid , part goes nla

I can name many items


GB

Did the materials needed to make these parts disappear? No; the people to make the parts won't go to work as long as they can live off government handouts. Until that is addressed we are stuck with supply chain issues and high prices.

Agreed, but in one case the materials did go away... pre-coolers for Citations and Phenoms, they are made by a company in Israel and the metal comes from Ukraine. Well... utoh.

The problems are more difficult for newer planes, oddly enough.

There's no part I can't find for my old Citation. I may have to go to salvage to get it, but people with newer planes have fewer options which are more expensive.

I have a set of tires sitting in my garage, so I am set there.

Most, not all, of the parts shortages are caused by hoarding behaviors. This is one of those things where what is best for the individual is not best for the collective.

Mike C.

That might have been true 3 years ago, but now.. what government handouts? The unemployment rate is historically low, and basic unemployment benefits won't come close to covering rent in the majority of the country. That's also ignoring the fact that much of our supply chain difficulty here in America is because of parts of the chain that are located overseas.

Garmin and Continental aren't having supply-chain problems because Billy Beatnik wants to stay home and play his Xbox instead of working. (although frankly I'm damned if I know why crankshafts are so hard to get-- I am guessing there's some material used in the pretreatment process that is scarce.)

That might have been true 3 years ago, but now.. what government handouts? The unemployment rate is historically low, and basic unemployment benefits won't come close to covering rent in the majority of the country. That's also ignoring the fact that much of our supply chain difficulty here in America is because of parts of the chain that are located overseas.

Garmin and Continental aren't having supply-chain problems because Billy Beatnik wants to stay home and play his Xbox instead of working. (although frankly I'm damned if I know why crankshafts are so hard to get-- I am guessing there's some material used in the pretreatment process that is scarce.)

We had real difficulties between Engineering, Product Support, Purchasing, and Spares Division. The fact that Spares Division was a profit center that reported high up in the food chain made it difficult for anybody else to influence them or their policies.

Its almost identical to the rate from 2015 thru 2019. 62.4% in Jan

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/CIVPART

Got a couple of examples you can share, Paul?

Paul

Irony

Having one set I intend to use soon is not hoarding.

Having 10 sets I intend to sell at elevated prices would be.

Mike C.

Got a couple of examples you can share, Paul?

Paul

So you think the kind of skilled workers who manufacture key aviation components have all quit because the previous administration gave some people a couple of $600 cheques?

Complete nonsense.