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Post subject: Final Learjet. Posted: 02 Apr 2022, 00:37 |
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Sad day, but can't say I'm surprised. They didn't follow the times and it finally caught up, I reckon. Not many people want a narrow cabin 2-crew jet these days. They'd probably be killing it if they'd gone SP on some of their last models. https://www.ainonline.com/aviation-news/business-aviation/2022-03-28/bombardier-delivers-final-production-learjet?utm_medium=email&utm_source=rasa_io&PostID=51197447&MessageRunDetailID=8661207391Bill Lear was one of those remarkable self-taught, self-made, let's-roll-up-the-sleeves-and-git-er-done characters that just don't exist today. He invented many groundbreaking things. And when you look at the penultimate Learjet 60XR, it's just such a remarkable design that still looks modern after 50 years. I can count very few things in this world that are timeless - the Learjet certainly is. And that was all Bill Lear - he willed that thing into existence trough insurmountable obstacles, against all odds and invented his own genre - the biz jet. Attachment: ext2_e.jpg
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Post subject: Re: Final Learjet. Posted: 03 Apr 2022, 13:58 |
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Username Protected wrote: Bill Lear was one of those remarkable self-taught, self-made, let's-roll-up-the-sleeves-and-git-er-done characters that just don't exist today. There are certainly modern day examples even MORE successful than Bill.
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Post subject: Re: Final Learjet. Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 01:47 |
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Bill Lear was in a class on to himself. I’m not sure if there’s anyone today that would hold a candle to him. Interesting character, genius inventor and the epitome of entrepreneurship. Really a giant among men. It’s hard to come up with anyone who would really compare. Hard on marriages though and probably not the easiest man to get along with. But nevertheless, an American Icon.
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Post subject: Re: Final Learjet. Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 02:47 |
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Username Protected wrote: Bill Lear was in a class on to himself. I’m not sure if there’s anyone today that would hold a candle to him. Interesting character, genius inventor and the epitome of entrepreneurship. Really a giant among men. It’s hard to come up with anyone who would really compare. Hard on marriages though and probably not the easiest man to get along with. But nevertheless, an American Icon. I would certainly place Elon Musk in that category. Insane work ethic, wildly successful at nearly everything he touches, pushes the limits of technology, and just MAKES %#$@ HAPPEN. Yes, also horrific with personal relationships.
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Post subject: Re: Final Learjet. Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 09:30 |
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He has a great relationship with his what 150 billion dollars……
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Post subject: Re: Final Learjet. Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 12:43 |
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I'm curious, what are the requirements for a jet to be single pilot? Is there a reason Learjet never pursued a single pilot option?
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Post subject: Re: Final Learjet. Posted: 04 Apr 2022, 13:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm curious, what are the requirements for a jet to be single pilot? Is there a reason Learjet never pursued a single pilot option? Bill originally wanted the Lear 23 to be single pilot. The controls were configured to support that (gear switch by the pilot's right knee, yaw damper in the left corner of the panel, MGW 12499 lbs, etc. It never went through. The story I always heard was that it was considered too much for one pilot to handle on their own. Having flown it I struggle to imagine that it's any harder to fly than a Premier or other SP certified jet, but what it lacked was the same level of automation. As important I think is that there had never been a SP jet before and the FAA likely saw this brand new pocket fighter and blew coffee out of their nose laughing at the thought. The little Lear was not the pussycat that the analog Citation is, nor did it have any of the helpful automation that later designs have. I do not know how much of that bore on the decision, nor what the specific requirements of SP are, but nobody pursued the idea again until Cessna got the SP certified many years later.
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