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Post subject: Re: Piper Warrior shoulder harness options for rear seats? Posted: 22 Mar 2022, 21:00 |
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Joined: 01/23/13 Posts: 8094 Post Likes: +5788 Company: Kokotele Guitar Works Location: Albany, NY
Aircraft: C-182RG, C-172, PA28
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Username Protected wrote: Jeff, thanks for posting that; I managed to miss it in my searches. Looks like the parts are (relatively) easy to source separately, but not as a kit.
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Post subject: Re: Piper Warrior shoulder harness options for rear seats? Posted: 29 Mar 2022, 20:34 |
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Joined: 06/19/11 Posts: 3 Location: Charleston, SC
Aircraft: PA-32
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A good alternative to shoulder harnesses in the rear seats of Pipers is the AmSafe Soars lap belt airbag. I’m looking at installing those is the club seats of a Cherokee Six due to the lack of an STC for three-points.
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Post subject: Re: Piper Warrior shoulder harness options for rear seats? Posted: 30 Mar 2022, 11:00 |
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Joined: 12/29/14 Posts: 8490 Post Likes: +5307 Location: Brunswick, Ga
Aircraft: PA32RT-300T
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Username Protected wrote: A good alternative to shoulder harnesses in the rear seats of Pipers is the AmSafe Soars lap belt airbag. I’m looking at installing those is the club seats of a Cherokee Six due to the lack of an STC for three-points. Are you a POS member yet?
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Post subject: Re: Piper Warrior shoulder harness options for rear seats? Posted: 23 Apr 2022, 09:25 |
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Joined: 06/19/11 Posts: 3 Location: Charleston, SC
Aircraft: PA-32
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I’ve got a ‘77 PA-32-300 with three point belts in the front. I checked out Alpha’s STC but it looks like it’s only for the pilot/co-pilot seats. My goal is the make the rear club seats with no option other than lap belts a bit safer and came across the Soars air bag lap belts. Not sure how effective air bags would be in the rear facing club seats though, but probably can’t hurt.
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Post subject: Re: Piper Warrior shoulder harness options for rear seats? Posted: 25 Apr 2022, 23:24 |
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Joined: 01/22/19 Posts: 887 Post Likes: +666 Location: KFXE
Aircraft: PA23-250
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Username Protected wrote: A good alternative to shoulder harnesses in the rear seats of Pipers is the AmSafe Soars lap belt airbag. I’m looking at installing those is the club seats of a Cherokee Six due to the lack of an STC for three-points. Steer clear of Amsafe. While the products are good, support is painful. Just wait till you have to send the airbag controller back for calibration. It used to cost $400 and take two weeks. Now, it's $700, and you may, or may not get it back after several months. And this is after you've spend many days just trying to get an RMA to send it in for repair. At 7 years, the controller is sent in for recalibration, and at 14 years, you have to buy a new one for $1100. The inflators expire in 12 years, figure $1k per seat for new ones and the conversion kit, since they changed the size of the inflators. We deal with them for Cirrus airbag systems. Cirrus unfortunately added the airbag components to their chapter 4 life limited items list. So when the controller is expired, the plane is grounded. At last count there were dozens of planes grounded, with no end in sight. And this is at the OEM level, where Cirrus has some clout. Individuals with STC's systems are absolute nobodies to Amsafe. They don't answer emails or the phone. I've been waiting for exchange controller units for 3 months now.
_________________ A&P/IA/CFI/avionics tech KFXE Cirrus aircraft expert
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