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Amazing how many people will sell their soul to the devil and then are surprised when the devil doesn’t make nice.


And the US has never bought any foreign company to get the technology. Obviously.


ahhhh. but as an American, why wouldn't I want that?

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The Icon has zero military applications.

I will disagree. It can be easily adapted as a OPV or UAV for ISR missions.

It can be easily stored aboard and launched from and recovered by small ships and/or operate in littoral AOR’s.

Low and slow flyers may have an (swarm?) advantage if targeting and fire control systems ignore low & slow ops or swarms.

It is also cheap and could be built and deployed quickly, with minimal support.


They own Searey and have for years. They also own most of the drone and model airplane companies too. I'm not sure what my point is but I don't see the difference in these and the Icon.

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Not to mention gake DC-9's, A-320's and A-330's rolling off of the assembly line new in Shanghai. The green airplanes caught my eye last week on final approach..

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I don't see the difference in these and the Icon

I do see substantive differences between the Searey and A5, but I spent a couple of decades working in the development and support of various ISR platforms and ops.

The Searey is a fine flyer and has good manners on the water. If I was buying a recreational amphib for flatwater, I would buy the Searey.

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I captured the submersible version

That's the top secret one that the Chinese really want. :clap: :peace: :thumbup:


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With everything the ccp has already hoovered up I'm suprised that the dust speck known as ICON would warrant any attention at all.

By the way - Hoover is now owned by Techtronic, based in Hong Kong.


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The Chinese government is the world’s principal infringer ofintellectual property, and it uses its laws and regulations to put foreign companies at a disadvantage and its own companies at an advantage.

U.S. business interactions with foreign counterparts should be based on the principles of reciprocity, should be grounded in the rule of law, and should seek to uphold our market-based economy and its innovative ecosystem.

The Chinese government, however, does not play by the same rules
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The Icon has zero military applications.

I will disagree. It can be easily adapted as a OPV or UAV for ISR missions.

It can be easily stored aboard and launched from and recovered by small ships and/or operate in littoral AOR’s.

Low and slow flyers may have an (swarm?) advantage if targeting and fire control systems ignore low & slow ops or swarms.

It is also cheap and could be built and deployed quickly, with minimal support.


Even assuming the united states military faces a legitimate threat from this aircraft, which is ridiculous, the Chinese could make thousands of them by just buying one and copying the design.

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when the diesel engine company EPS went bankrupt, it was prevented from being bought by the Chinese. It was bought by general atomics for UAV use and possible commercial sale.

a government organization, CFIUS over sees the sale of US companies to foreigners if there are any defense ramifications.

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Even assuming the united states military faces a legitimate threat from this aircraft, which is ridiculous, the Chinese could make thousands of them by just buying one and copying the design.

It ain’t about these aircraft being a direct threat to the USA.

China is working to grow their worldwide influence. Consider Africa:

China has 1+ million workers in Africa. The airports and ports they are building are unlikely to be limited to only commercial ops. Probably not unlike the way the USA attempts to install “friendly” governments and equip them with basic surveillance and light attack aircraft … which we are also doing in Africa.

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China takes the long view unlike us where anything more than a year or two away is too far to plan for.

Many US companies have been taken because the US executives looked at profits in the next few years and China planning what will happen 10 years in the future.

to really understand the oriental mind read "the art of war" by Sun Tsu

It lays out how China plans to dominate the world.


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China planning what will happen 10 years in the future.

China has their 2050 plan.

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China planning what will happen 10 years in the future.

China has their 2050 plan.


2050 Zulu maybe...

I was in China last week multiple times. I'm not worried about them taking over the world...

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