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Post subject: Re: Congratulations to new Citation Pilot!!  Posted: 07 Dec 2021, 13:09 |
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Mike has to keep finding them and selling them!
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations to new Citation Pilot!! Posted: 09 Dec 2021, 22:13 |
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He has to pay for fuel for that Augusta!
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations to new Citation Pilot!! Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 01:28 |
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Username Protected wrote: Congratulations to the new Citation owner/pilot. As good as a P-Baron is, he'll be safer flying an easy handling Transport Category jet. Technically, the 501SP isn't transport category (part 25). It is part 23. Mike C.
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations to new Citation Pilot!! Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 13:20 |
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Username Protected wrote: Congratulations to the new Citation owner/pilot. As good as a P-Baron is, he'll be safer flying an easy handling Transport Category jet. Technically, the 501SP isn't transport category (part 25). It is part 23. Mike C.
I mistook it for a Part 25 Citation ll without counting windows. No Citation groupie worth his salt could miss that.  , but still is a safer airplane than a piston prop plane.
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations to new Citation Pilot!! Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 14:11 |
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Username Protected wrote: I mistook it for a Part 25 Citation ll without counting windows. No Citation groupie worth his salt could miss that:D , but still is a safer airplane than a piston prop plane. [nerd_alert] well, some citation II’s are also Part 23. To be clear, the 501sp (Citation I-SP) and 551sp (Citation II-SP) share the same TCDS ( A27CE) on a part 23 cert basis. This while the 500 (Citation I), 550 (Citation II) as well as S550 552 560 560XL are all TCDS ( A22CE) part 25 cert basis. [/nerd_alert] Not that it makes one safer than the other…but in the interest of nitpicking 
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations to new Citation Pilot!! Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 14:57 |
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Username Protected wrote: I mistook it for a Part 25 Citation ll without counting windows. No Citation groupie worth his salt could miss that:D , but still is a safer airplane than a piston prop plane. [nerd_alert] well, some citation II’s are also Part 23. To be clear, the 501sp (Citation I-SP) and 551sp (Citation II-SP) share the same TCDS ( A27CE) on a part 23 cert basis. This while the 500 (Citation I), 550 (Citation II) as well as S550 552 560 560XL are all TCDS ( A22CE) part 25 cert basis. [/nerd_alert] Not that it makes one safer than the other…but in the interest of nitpicking
A company I flew for had a Citation 501 and a Lear 35. I flew right seat in the Citation and left seat in the Lear. I always felt safer in the Lear, not having to worry about bird strikes from the rear in the Citation.
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Post subject: Re: Congratulations to new Citation Pilot!! Posted: 10 Dec 2021, 17:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Poor Citations, always taking it about the rear from Lear drivers............  At least I don't have to declare a fuel emergency at the hold short line....
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