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Are there any STCs for gross weight increases for Cessna 140s?


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Are there any STCs for gross weight increases for Cessna 140s?


Empty weights seem to vary by 100 lbs or more. What is the empty weight of the plane you are dealing with?


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Are there any STCs for gross weight increases for Cessna 140s?

Remove the electrical system. Starter/generator, battery, regulator, and wiring are significant weight.

I don't think it was certified with one originally.

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Are there any STCs for gross weight increases for Cessna 140s?

Remove the electrical system. Starter/generator, battery, regulator, and wiring are significant weight.

I don't think it was certified with one originally.

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Most (all?) 140s rolled off the line with an electrical system. It was the 120 that shipped without it (although it was an option).

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Lol you guys! :lol:

When I had my '46 140 a few years back, it worked well as an "FAA standard pilot and a girlfriend" plane, even with full fuel. For me I suppose it would still work well for that.

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What is the empty weight of the plane you are dealing with?

This plane is my hangar mate's. The useful load is somewhere around 425lbs. So empty weight for this plane must be just over 1,000lbs. for 1,450lbs. gross ('47 model).

Does no paperwork STC exist that moves it from the utility to the standard category?


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Yes, to my knowledge 120's when orignally manfactured had no flaps, no second side window, and an electrical system was not standard. Many 120's have been updated with owners installing an electrical system and even the second side window.


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This plane is my hangar mate's. The useful load is somewhere around 425lbs. So empty weight for this plane must be just over 1,000lbs. for 1,450lbs. gross ('47 model).

Does no paperwork STC exist that moves it from the utility to the standard category?


Empty weights over 1,000 are not uncommon. My 120 has no interior except the seat and is polished with a fabric wing. From memory I think I’m around 915 empty. Sounds like you need to put yours on a diet. Maybe a lightweight starter and alternator would be a starting point.


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