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Post subject: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 20:02 |
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Hey all- I’m 18 months into a 3 man partnership in a well equipped 421. During Covid we flew a lot as a family (4 kids) but now everyone is back in school and our mission has changed for the foreseeable future. I don’t see us flying nearly as many hours and the ownership costs of the 421 are not justifiable. The plane is amazingly capable, but as I’ve had been warned, it is very expensive to own and needs a lot of unscheduled maintenance. Parts are hard to come by and very expensive. Plus, it’s just not built to Beechcraft standards which again, I knew going in.
I know the first year of ownership is always more expensive with catch up maintenance, so this number may be high, but for 75 hours the past year it has cost about $1000/ hour. If down the road I get back into a pressurized plane I would like to consider the p baron. Can anyone comment on the costs between owning a p baron and a 421?
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 20:27 |
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Respectfully Gerald, we bought the best 421 we could find and while it did have deferred maintenance, it is far from junk. It’s probably one of the nicest in the country right now. Squak free. Every system works. But then something new always seems to break. So you’re saying if kept to the same standards, in the same condition, they’re all about the same cost to own and operate?
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 20:28 |
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We did indeed Jesse. Very tempting.
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 20:31 |
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Joined: 01/24/10 Posts: 7338 Post Likes: +5003 Location: Concord , CA (KCCR)
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Username Protected wrote: Respectfully Gerald, we bought the best 421 we could find and while it did have deferred maintenance, it is far from junk. It’s probably one of the nicest in the country right now. Squak free. Every system works. But then something new always seems to break. So you’re saying if kept to the same standards, in the same condition, they’re all about the same cost to own and operate? If the plane REALLY IS IN THAT GOOD OF CONDITION then something is seriously wrong with your maintenance program.
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 20:43 |
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A friend of mine with a very nice appearing, not neglected 414 just spent $80,000 in a year for fixing things that broke. It was not his first year, he had put a new panel and other big upgrades a few years prior. He was so disappointed he is buying a turbine.
Not saying a $75k or $80k year is normal, but also not the only story I’ve heard.
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 20:44 |
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Perhaps you’d be kind enough to share your annual costs?
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 22:29 |
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Thanks Ryan. I think you’re correct. The meridian just doesn’t have the useful load for when we do take family trips with all the kids. Can’t justify an M600 or TBM.
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 23:45 |
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Thanks Rocky. What are you flying now? Sounds fast.
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Post subject: Re: Advice pls- ownership costs p baron VS 421 Posted: 20 Sep 2021, 23:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: Thanks Ryan. I think you’re correct. The meridian just doesn’t have the useful load for when we do take family trips with all the kids. Can’t justify an M600 or TBM. Buy my old MU2.
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