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Do people actually put their money down on offers like this?


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Doug, how do you come across these things?

I think they were at Airventure.

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Wow, I guess I should sell my 340 and get one of these. same useful load, 2/3 the price, 2/3 the fuel, 50% faster, twice the range... and hey, they already have a wing, so it's basically a done deal.


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I want one...

Specially going up to 35k feet
I really hope they will throw in a nice looking bridge for the same price. Been wanting to get either the Golden Gate, or the bay bridge.

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I want one...

Specially going up to 35k feet
I really hope they will throw in a nice looking bridge for the same price. Been wanting to get either the Golden Gate, or the bay bridge.

Whatsa mattah, the Brooklyn Bridge isn't good enough for ya?

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I want one...

Specially going up to 35k feet
I really hope they will throw in a nice looking bridge for the same price. Been wanting to get either the Golden Gate, or the bay bridge.

Whatsa mattah, the Brooklyn Bridge isn't good enough for ya?


Too rusty
If I am going to get a bridge, I rather have something cleaner, and more local too.
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I was going to add to my earlier post that if people do put money down on this sort of thing I have a very nice bridge for sale in Sydney.

I stupidly thought it might have been a bit obscure, as it might just be an Australian joke. Obviously not!


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I was going to add to my earlier post that if people do put money down on this sort of thing I have a very nice bridge for sale in Sydney.

I stupidly thought it might have been a bit obscure, as it might just be an Australian joke. Obviously not!


nobody is going to fall for a bridge in Australia... We all know that it is already upside down... Being down there. :lol:

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Do people actually put their money down on offers like this?

Yes. These grifts have been occurring for decades.

I was at OSH when the BD5 Mk I prototype caught fire. The Mk II and Mk III were very different inspite of their visual similarities. Deposits were lost.

Or; the 197x debut of the FoxJet. I do not recall the deposit situation.

Or the (198x) year than John Monet was accepting deposits at OSH for a new design, then folded the company within just a few weeks. The deposits were lost.

Or, or, or …

Thankfully, Peter was not a grifter. He returned deposits. Roy Lopresti returned Swift Fury deposits. I would love to know the backgrounds of the people funding these efforts.

At least Bede and Monet had previously delivered actual flying aircraft kits that generally met their performance goals, before going too-good-to-be-true.

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That spar looks like I could have made it in my garage. Reinforced at the corners with angle aluminum from home depot, of course!


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There is no way I would get in a plane if I knew the spar looked like the one in the pic. Indeed to my untrained eye all the build pics look, to put it nicely, worrying.


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Thanks for that Chris. It was a very interesting link. I had no idea of the history of “I have a bridge for sale”.


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There is no way I would get in a plane if I knew the spar looked like the one in the pic.


Yep. That looks like something PM would do. Four flat pieces of carbon fiber glued to 6061 aluminum angle brackets.

I'm okay with that! :lol:


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