Not sure why people who have bought an aircraft don’t understand why chatter about buying and selling aircraft is just as much hangar flying as chatting about cylinder compressions.

On a related note - Chip, how many jets did you sell this year?

Not sure why people who have bought an aircraft don’t understand why chatter about buying and selling aircraft is just as much hangar flying as chatting about cylinder compressions.

On a related note - Chip, how many jets did you sell this year?

Things that are acceptable subjects on BT (aka most recent topics in babbletalk)

Fishing
Bicycle trips across Oregon
Pictures of grandkids
Elon Musk
Electric Cars
War in Ukraine
Coffee
Football
Birds

Unacceptable topics:
Buying airplanes

Zero!!

Three, Mustang, CJ2+ and CJ3

Close on a CJ3+ and a really nice Citation V.

Currently looking for another CJ2+

It’s kinda become a fun thing, someone ask what I do… “I buy airplanes” gets a lot more interesting look out of people than my previous career where I simply said I sell airplanes.

It is what I consider an important distinction, I continue in my hope to inspire other aviation professionals to follow my lead and only represent buyers, so far not many takers.

You should come visit our “kids” in the high school.

He has paid money so he can use BT as a place to promote his business.

Once you pay money, there is no test for relevancy, the vendors have special rules.

We are lucky that the other vendors do not treat BT in the same way. If they posted at the same rate as Chip, that would be 500,000 additional forum posts in BT (about 100 vendors and 5000 posts each).

Mike C.

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We are lucky that the other BT members do not treat Chip in the same way. If they posted at the same rate as Mike, that would be 3,800,000 additional forum posts in BT (about 77,000 members and 50 posts each).

It’s funny that Mike criticizes me, but if the info to the left is correct, it appears I’ve been a Beechtalker longer than him and posted about 1/3 as much.

For the people who actually come here because they are curious about the state of the preowned aircraft market and what trends we are seeing in inventory.

Large cabin and even some super mid-size jet inventories are rising and we are seeing downward movement in prices of those aircraft.

We are also seeing a considerable increase in the inventory levels of older aircraft, I usually think of 1985 and older when I say “older” but it is a relative term. To some buyers a 2010 is old. I also intentionally avoided the term “legacy” because that might include such aircraft as the Citation V, inventory of V’s and Ultras are basically non-existent.

Early 1980’s and older King Airs are fairly abundant and these aircraft aren’t bringing the prices owners expect them to. Most jets of the same vintage have gone right back to very hard to sell.

Hawkers, Premiers, Beechjets, older Challengers, older Falcons esp 2000 Classic are declining in popularity and price.

Unfortunately, most owners who sell an older aircraft want to replace it with a newer one, so this increases the demand on newer airframes that are already in short supply.

We have a Citation CJ3+ in prebuy and we were able to present our client with several options both on and off market, but I think it was just timing and catching the market when several owners were taking delivery of their new replacement aircraft. (they ordered a new one a couple of years ago to replace the new one they took delivery of five years ago)

We’re very active in the CJ2+ and CJ3 market and can’t find anything worth buying.

The Sovereign market got a little soft over the summer, but it’s tight again.

And on the story goes, each model and year range has its own story.

The most important consideration for a turbine aircraft buyer right now is considering the long game, it’s easy to get discouraged by the lack of options and settle for an airplane with known issues, always remember these markets are volatile and you may want to sell when that specific market is softer, if you compromised and bought the airplane with high airframe or engine times, damage history or missing records, it may be very hard to sell in the future.

If you need a gut check, call me before you make a mistake, I’m busy, so it may be a quick conversation but I’ll be glad to give you some insight and help you navigate the shark invested waters, I don’t charge to give advice and this is NOT me marketing or trying to get clients. We are fully booked, we cannot take on any new clients right now.

Let me know when you have a Turbo Lance II buyer.

Let me know when you have a Turbo Lance II buyer.

Is there any interest in the Tamarack mod?

Tamarack seems to be a love or hate. I'm in the latter, I will not fly one nor buy one for any of my clients. Most potential buyers I've dealt with lately are in the same camp.

-Citation Jet Exchange