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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 12:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: I don't know if there's a connection...
I was at the local Ford dealership today to get a part for my Explorer. The lot was erriely empty. Handful of new trucks, couple of new cars. The used car side was even more empty. I know the chip shortage is impacting new cars but the lack of used cars was surprising. If you can't buy a new car, you're not going to trade your used car. Plus you can get a lot more for your old car by selling it privately.
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 12:38 |
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Username Protected wrote: There is a shortage of all kinds of things these days. Try buying a truck lately?! Perhaps easier to buy gold bullion. Nothing special about airplanes. Government is pumping so much money into the economy that there are shortages of all things. There is more money out there than things to buy. Might be looking at massive inflation down the road. I could be wrong, but at one point it did take a wheelbarrow full of money to buy a load of bread in Germany. Of course that could never happen again. if we measured inflation today the way we did in the 70s, we’d like see what we all feel… double digit inflation. It’s here. Right now.
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 12:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: if we measured inflation today the way we did in the 70s, we’d like see what we all feel… double digit inflation. It’s here. Right now. If we had interest rates that we had in the 70's, the economy would probably instantly collapse, and along with it everyone's retirement 401k retirement plans. Take a look at historical interest rates and then look at the past 12 years. There is literally no "safe place" for money, and it affects every person and business. Best, Rich
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 14:24 |
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All it will take is a significant sell off in the stock market to reverse the buying of goods and services due to the "wealth effect" of rising portfolios, that when the balances start going down, people tighten up on spending. Any number of things can cause a stock market reversal, including the Black Swan nobody anticipated, and even then often reversals are more about perception and fear, rather than reality. Are we in a period of "irrational exuberance"? Maybe with the emergence of the Covid Delta variant, investing in toilet paper would work.
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 15:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: All it will take is a significant sell off in the stock market to reverse the buying of goods and services due to the "wealth effect" of rising portfolios, that when the balances start going down, people tighten up on spending. Any number of things can cause a stock market reversal, including the Black Swan nobody anticipated, and even then often reversals are more about perception and fear, rather than reality. Are we in a period of "irrational exuberance"? Maybe with the emergence of the Covid Delta variant, investing in toilet paper would work. At the risk of crossing over into the investment thread... COVID/Delta won't pop the bubble(s). Heck, it will throw fuel on the fire. More lockdowns mean more stimmies which means more money chasing fewer assets (because the manufacturers are locked down). Exactly what we've seen the last 16 months. It's all about the Fed. If/when they start tapering/raising rates, that's when the asset party ends. And when they start tapering/raising rates is dependent on what they consider to be inflation getting too high. They have their own (lousy) metrics so no one really knows. They have been saying not until 2023 so this party could go on for another 18 months.
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 20:20 |
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Add to the FWIW file:
Previously, I never received unsolicited offers to buy my plane.
In the last 10 days I've received three....
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 20:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Build Back Better program must be working. Dave And we haven't even started yet. I often hear on the conservative news that the government is looking to spend another 3.5 trillion dollars. Real estate might be a pretty good place to be. I don't like crypto - too volatile.
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 21:04 |
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Username Protected wrote: All it will take is a significant sell off in the stock market to reverse the buying of goods and services due to the "wealth effect" of rising portfolios, that when the balances start going down, people tighten up on spending. Any number of things can cause a stock market reversal, including the Black Swan nobody anticipated, and even then often reversals are more about perception and fear, rather than reality. Are we in a period of "irrational exuberance"? Maybe with the emergence of the Covid Delta variant, investing in toilet paper would work. At the risk of crossing over into the investment thread... COVID/Delta won't pop the bubble(s). Heck, it will throw fuel on the fire. More lockdowns mean more stimmies which means more money chasing fewer assets (because the manufacturers are locked down). Exactly what we've seen the last 16 months. It's all about the Fed. If/when they start tapering/raising rates, that's when the asset party ends. And when they start tapering/raising rates is dependent on what they consider to be inflation getting too high. They have their own (lousy) metrics so no one really knows. They have been saying not until 2023 so this party could go on for another 18 months.
It will end badly. The only question is when and how loudly.
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 21:07 |
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Username Protected wrote: All it will take is a significant sell off in the stock market to reverse the buying of goods and services due to the "wealth effect" of rising portfolios, that when the balances start going down, people tighten up on spending. Any number of things can cause a stock market reversal, including the Black Swan nobody anticipated, and even then often reversals are more about perception and fear, rather than reality. Are we in a period of "irrational exuberance"? Maybe with the emergence of the Covid Delta variant, investing in toilet paper would work. At the risk of crossing over into the investment thread... COVID/Delta won't pop the bubble(s). Heck, it will throw fuel on the fire. More lockdowns mean more stimmies which means more money chasing fewer assets (because the manufacturers are locked down). Exactly what we've seen the last 16 months. It's all about the Fed. If/when they start tapering/raising rates, that's when the asset party ends. And when they start tapering/raising rates is dependent on what they consider to be inflation getting too high. They have their own (lousy) metrics so no one really knows. They have been saying not until 2023 so this party could go on for another 18 months.
The Fed is out of spit. Interest rates it’s only tool and those are near zero. Pols & Fed lack the will to end this in the manner that Paul Volker did to end the stsgflation of the Carter years.
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 13 Aug 2021, 22:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Fed is out of spit. Interest rates it’s only tool and those are near zero. Pols & Fed lack the will to end this in the manner that Paul Volker did to end the stsgflation of the Carter years. What a weird statement to make given all the additional measures they deployed last year including bringing MBS and other assets onto their balance sheet
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Post subject: Re: Aircraft inventory levels are critically low. Posted: 14 Aug 2021, 10:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: The Fed is out of spit. Interest rates it’s only tool and those are near zero. Pols & Fed lack the will to end this in the manner that Paul Volker did to end the stsgflation of the Carter years. What a weird statement to make given all the additional measures they deployed last year including bringing MBS and other assets onto their balance sheet
What business does the Fed have in meddling in those markets? Most folks agree that centrally planned economies do not function as well as market based economies. Why do folks place faith in Central Banks?
Also, this is a de facto rate play. Fed purchases of MBS increases (artificially) demand for same, keeps prices up and yield on these instruments down. Still a rate play.
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