this x1000, I get 3-4 emails a week about my KA, and now it's gotten so bad that brokers are stalking the tail number on flightaware, anytime I file a flight plan using the tail number instead of call sign, I get a flood of emails since they know it's airworthy

vultures!

this x1000, I get 3-4 emails a week about my KA, and now it's gotten so bad that brokers are stalking the tail number on flightaware, anytime I file a flight plan using the tail number instead of call sign, I get a flood of emails since they know it's airworthy

vultures!

Ask Stevens or the title company, once those two had my email they started an immediate influx, Chip can probably chime in and tell you, there’s a system called Jet something that data mines email and phone info and registered owner/operator info for tail numbers

It’s really scummy feeling when they call you and they have been looking into your flight history or know your engine hours or when your gear is due, presumably from the last sales ad or the last maint event where that info was available

But welcome to the turbine world, this is also the same list/system that all of the “we find off market aircraft” type brokers thrive in

Real estate has gotten the same way lately, getting calls on properties too, same sort of system from prior agent or brokerage sharing data

JetNet. Us lowly piston drivers have no such harassment.

Actually, JetNet does have data for some pistons.......but their Beech info starts at 58's, not 55's, so you're safe from them, Sven! Now, AmStat.......they might have you, I don't know, as we don't subscribe to them. Chip might, so you'd have to check that with him.

We have a small software project that we spun off into its own product, so that team got new email addresses with the new branding, etc. It wasn't a month before I started getting spam, I think someone scanned my email signature and it got entered into a database.

Our primary business now relies on essentially incoming inquiries. People are understandably so resistant to any sales that they just throw out solicitations out of hand. This is a shame in our case as we often do targeted spec work, I enjoy solving the problems that we do where needed.

I can't think of a time I got a solicitation that was anything more than automated junk mail. I think we pay for our phone system for the sole benefit of telemarketers, I would say the spam calls to actual calls are about 100:1. The most effort I have seen is where someone saw on my Linkedin page that I went to Ohio State and makes some hollow reference to it.

I understand sales is hard, and I empathize with the good salespeople. That said, the industry seems to attract people who are not interested in providing much value, and are annoying as all hell.

How do they know your email address?

Ask Stevens or the title company, once those two had my email they started an immediate influx, Chip can probably chime in and tell you, there’s a system called Jet something that data mines email and phone info and registered owner/operator info for tail numbers

It’s really scummy feeling when they call you and they have been looking into your flight history or know your engine hours or when your gear is due, presumably from the last sales ad or the last maint event where that info was available

But welcome to the turbine world, this is also the same list/system that all of the “we find off market aircraft” type brokers thrive in

Real estate has gotten the same way lately, getting calls on properties too, same sort of system from prior agent or brokerage sharing data

I get one or two calls a year from JetNet. I don't mind that they call. I'm polite and give them the information for which they ask. It's really no big deal.

So you don't mind a peeping Tom looking in your bedroom window at night?

They deserve no response, IMO. All they do is turn your information into money for themselves.

It would be better if they didn't get any data from cold calling owners so they would then stop doing that and bothering the rest of us.

Mike C.

For a brief time in college I got paid to cold-call people and sometimes walk door-to-door (pre-internet) working for a local congressman. It sucked. Since then, I treat cold-callers and sales people with respect. They're just doing their job, no need to be ugly.

That's like feeding wildlife which ultimately kills them.

I respect cold callers by trying to make their industry useless and ineffective so they can find a job that is far more useful and satisfying.

Mike C.

You guys answer calls from unknown numbers?

That's like feeding wildlife which ultimately kills them.

I respect cold callers by trying to make their industry useless and ineffective so they can find a job that is far more useful and satisfying.

Mike C.

You have no right to bother thousands of airplane owners now matter how valuable the information is to YOU.


Then why are they calling owners? That suggests they are collecting information that is NOT public.


That's self important crap. Aviation would survive just fine without those people. It is hard to think of anyone less important to aviation than those people, really.


Since you can't tell if the information is made up, I suspect that happens a lot. Just because you pay money for something doesn't make it valuable.


Like JetNet implying they are doing something for ME? That was total BS.

I think every aircraft owner should inject completely false information into the data stream. I bet no one even notices because the data just isn't that useful in the end.

Mike C.