Me thinks aircraft inventory is a wee bit better now and has possibly exited critical levels…

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That's the problem with pretty much all startups in the last 20 years, isn't it? They're packaged and leveraged to only work by offloading them to a new buyer. The business model is to fatten it up, buy customers as quickly as possible and then sell it to a bigger fish, rather than actually doing the business they're supposed to do.

Then again, has any airline/charter company EVER been truly profitable? They run on 1% profit margins at best. You could sell lemonade on the corner and generate more profits than any charter company has ever done.

An update.

Inventory levels have been generally creeping up, though most of it is still comprised of airplanes that are slow to sell. We have definitely had an easier time finding aircraft this summer.

We are well ahead of our normal pace in regards to the number of aircraft we have in prebuy or already closed, so that’s a pretty good indication that there’s been a shift in the market that favors buyers. There’s still specific markets that are very tight, but overall things have gotten easier, we’ve entered into some market stability and equality between buyer and seller, it is definitely not the seller’s market it was in 2022.

It’s also obvious that prices aren’t going to drop much, absent some outside factor, so it’s easier to make a buy / not buy decision.

Overall, I’d say that inventory levels are still low, but certainly not critically low like they were when I started this thread. We are still a long way from what I would consider normal, but at least there’s movement and opportunity.

Oops, my bad, I didn't mean to stumble into the JetACQ company newsletter. I was looking for a Beechtalk forum...

Mike C.

Mike, when you get a bone, you pick it.

Perhaps showing my ignorance, which is not hard, but is there any easily accessed reporting of sales by type on the FAA site?

There are a few models of airplanes that seem to be available in higher numbers than I ever recall.

Jg

There really isn't for all models, we do have really good airframe / model specific for turbine aircraft, so I can speak intelligently to those markets. On the piston side I have no data.

But, you are correct, some models are still almost non-existent inventory wise and others have more availability.

LOL Come on Mike. You are doing the same thing Chip does. Haha. I can’t stick up for you when you do this kind of stuff. Hehe.

Let Chip have his own thread and maybe he will let you have yours. Let’s play nice

Mike

He pays for it, so I guess he gets to "own" his threads, as numerous as they are.

I don't pay for it, so I don't get to "own" any thread. I didn't really think anybody should "own" a thread.

Imagine if all the vendors in those little icons on the right hand side all created as many threads and posts as Chip does to show case his expertise. That would be like 100 times what Chip posts. BT would become heavily polluted with what are commercially motivated threads.

Mike C.

He pays for it, so I guess he gets to "own" his threads, as numerous as they are.

I don't pay for it, so I don't get to "own" any thread. I didn't really think anybody should "own" a thread.

Imagine if all the vendors in those little icons on the right hand side all created as many threads and posts as Chip does to show case his expertise. That would be like 100 times what Chip posts. BT would become heavily polluted with what are commercially motivated threads.

Mike C.

Right.....

If that was true, you wouldn't have to pay to be a BT sponsor so you get relaxed rules on content you can post.

And you wouldn't have to tell people about your new employee (which you edited out after the fact) and the number of aircraft you are handling.

Mike C.

Mike,

You promote your business email address and website 3 times with every post, and you’ve posted 3x as much as Chip.

We don’t get get pissed off every time you contribute some knowledge of analog electronics.

Give it a rest. Your house has more glass than you think it does.

Here's where y'all get a say/vote on the topic

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I don't know why the thought of Chip "self promoting" is so offensive to some.

He is one of the few BT posters who are actively in the aircraft market. He finds and buys aircraft. He actually deals with reality not hype or hope or prejudice. That is valuable experience.

I've often thought of how valuable Neal Schwartz opinions would be, but he chooses to rarely give them.

Salesmen can be a PITA, but they can also be an incredibly rich resource of information. When I was considering buying a TP, I called Chip, and he talked me out of it.

I AM SMART ENOUGHT TO LISTEN AND SEPERATE THE BEEF FROM THE BULL'S FOOT.

I welcome Chip's comments, and frankly, wish there were more people "in the market" to give theirs.

That's a good question. When I was starting to hunt for a Baron, I downloaded the entire FAA registration database, thinking I could just slice-and-dice it to find what I wanted. It was a little bit of a project… and of course that just shows you what's currently registered.

GAMA's the only outfit I know that tracks sales figures and I don't know of a way to get them over time except to go back and look over their press releases.