24 Apr 2024, 07:23 [ UTC - 5; DST ]
|
Username Protected |
Message |
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 20:32 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 06/09/09 Posts: 4573 Post Likes: +3298
Aircraft: C182P, Merlin IIIC
|
|
Username Protected wrote: Flying over the mountains in the West - no problem. Long water flight in a single engine piston - I will be paying someone to ferry it over. I have always had a water phobia. Besides the usual need to stretch my legs after 3-4 hours of flying plus take a piss break - what you do if you need to take a number 2 and you're 11 hours from Hilo? People who do not have their bowel movements in order are not the kind to undertake flights like this.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 20:51 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 10/28/14 Posts: 384 Post Likes: +315 Location: Fargo, ND
Aircraft: N80GA - 1979 E55
|
|
I believe there was a previous thread indicating Hawaii was not GA friendly overall. At what point do you decide to keep an airframe you are attached to on the mainland (if you plan to return) or sell and resort to renting for sightseeing. Not sure how a 210 fits into most missions around Hawaii unless they plan to regularly commute between islands.
Disclaimer. This coming from a guy who owns a baron but has no current mission for said baron. But damned if I’ll get rid of it!
_________________ A.P. 'Quinn' Anderson N80GA - 1979 E55
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 20:56 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 12/24/17 Posts: 1031 Post Likes: +960
Aircraft: A36
|
|
Username Protected wrote: Flying over the mountains in the West - no problem. Long water flight in a single engine piston - I will be paying someone to ferry it over. I have always had a water phobia. Besides the usual need to stretch my legs after 3-4 hours of flying plus take a piss break - what you do if you need to take a number 2 and you're 11 hours from Hilo? I never understand why this is a concern. Take a pee bottle. Take a diaper. It's not complicated.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 21:06 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 01/21/21 Posts: 545 Post Likes: +624
Aircraft: B55 Owner
|
|
Radar contact with the C210. Landing in 51 minutes.
Last edited on 05 Jun 2021, 22:08, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 22:39 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 11/20/16 Posts: 6475 Post Likes: +7954 Location: Austin, TX area
Aircraft: OPA
|
|
When I was a ramp rat, I used to occasionally fuel a guy who ferried airplanes to Australia. (Back in the '70s) I recall him stopping by in an A36 with the interior stripped out, and two 55 gallon drums plus a 30 gal drum in the back plumbed into the fuel system. He put the fuel in himself, I just drove the truck. I also recall we had to put a tail stand under it when full, or it would rock back on it's tail. The next morning, before his flight to CA, I had to wait for him to start it and run up to about 1000 rpm before I could remove the tail stand. He flew it that way, must have been very touchy in pitch.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 23:27 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 12/07/17 Posts: 7037 Post Likes: +5807 Company: Malco Power Design Location: KLVJ
Aircraft: 1976 Baron 58
|
|
Username Protected wrote: No way - Standard 210 is 90 gallons / long range tanks is 120 gallons. I bet that is with tips only considered. Has to be a honking ferry tank in there somewhere. He is currently at 150 mph - will speed up as he burns fuel but still.... The pilot is out of radar and ADS-B contact, so the speed readout that we are getting now is dated. I must admit, while not being afraid of risk in general, flying a piston airplane nearly 14 hours over the open water is not my idea of fun.
FlightAware gets Aireon data. Never out of ADS-B range if he is equipped.
Last edited on 05 Jun 2021, 23:32, edited 1 time in total.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 23:32 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 01/21/21 Posts: 545 Post Likes: +624
Aircraft: B55 Owner
|
|
Username Protected wrote: FlightAware gets Aerion data. Never out of range.
Do you have an explanation why ~11 hours of the 14 hour flight has no data then?
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 05 Jun 2021, 23:40 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 12/07/17 Posts: 7037 Post Likes: +5807 Company: Malco Power Design Location: KLVJ
Aircraft: 1976 Baron 58
|
|
Username Protected wrote: FlightAware gets Aerion data. Never out of range.
Do you have an explanation why ~11 hours of the 14 hour flight has no data then?
Data is there. Just not on the free site. They charge for the Aireon data. On the free FlightAware site you only see the ground based data.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 00:12 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 06/17/14 Posts: 5018 Post Likes: +1951 Location: KJYO
Aircraft: C-182, GA-7
|
|
Somebody has to know him and his story.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 00:14 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 06/17/14 Posts: 5018 Post Likes: +1951 Location: KJYO
Aircraft: C-182, GA-7
|
|
Username Protected wrote: Flying over the mountains in the West - no problem. Long water flight in a single engine piston - I will be paying someone to ferry it over. I have always had a water phobia. Besides the usual need to stretch my legs after 3-4 hours of flying plus take a piss break - what you do if you need to take a number 2 and you're 11 hours from Hilo? People who do not have their bowel movements in order are not the kind to undertake flights like this.
Speaking to some fighter and bomber pilots that I know, some of them take immodium a day or two before they do their long combat hops. Apparently there problems if they are on it for 3 days with the sortie not occurring. Their spouse also gets mad when they lose 5 pounds on that 4th day!
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 11:42 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 07/22/14 Posts: 9279 Post Likes: +16624 Company: Mountain Airframe LLC Location: Mena, Arkansas
|
|
Username Protected wrote: When I was a ramp rat, I used to occasionally fuel a guy who ferried airplanes to Australia. (Back in the '70s) I recall him stopping by in an A36 with the interior stripped out, and two 55 gallon drums plus a 30 gal drum in the back plumbed into the fuel system. He put the fuel in himself, I just drove the truck. I also recall we had to put a tail stand under it when full, or it would rock back on it's tail. The next morning, before his flight to CA, I had to wait for him to start it and run up to about 1000 rpm before I could remove the tail stand. He flew it that way, must have been very touchy in pitch. Was it Earl Covel? He was the other pilot flying the other aircraft along with Heidi Porch when she ditched. Earl lives here. Interesting stories. He's a short muscular man. Talks like a pirate. After his third ditch, an Islander in the Pacific in 1993, he won't ferry piston aircraft over the pond.
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 12:50 |
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: 12/17/15 Posts: 230 Post Likes: +203
Aircraft: Cessna 180A
|
|
Quote: Speaking to some fighter and bomber pilots that I know, some of them take immodium a day or two before they do their long combat hops. Apparently there problems if they are on it for 3 days with the sortie not occurring. Their spouse also gets mad when they lose 5 pounds on that 4th day! I think I would go the other direction and plan for the Colonoscopy prep colon cleanse. I would want nothing in the tanks other than AV gas.
_________________ Josh 1958 C180A O520
|
|
Top |
|
Username Protected
|
Post subject: Re: 210 to hawaii Posted: 06 Jun 2021, 18:09 |
|
|
|
|
Joined: 09/09/13 Posts: 343 Post Likes: +438 Location: Ballarat, Australia
Aircraft: C177rg
|
|
Does anybody know if as well as ferry tanks they add a system so they can add oil?
|
|
Top |
|
|
You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot post attachments in this forum
|
Terms of Service | Forum FAQ | Contact Us
BeechTalk, LLC is the quintessential Beechcraft Owners & Pilots Group providing a
forum for the discussion of technical, practical, and entertaining issues relating to all Beech aircraft. These include
the Bonanza (both V-tail and straight-tail models), Baron, Debonair, Duke, Twin Bonanza, King Air, Sierra, Skipper, Sport, Sundowner,
Musketeer, Travel Air, Starship, Queen Air, BeechJet, and Premier lines of airplanes, turboprops, and turbojets.
BeechTalk, LLC is not affiliated or endorsed by the Beechcraft Corporation, its subsidiaries, or affiliates.
Beechcraft™, King Air™, and Travel Air™ are the registered trademarks of the Beechcraft Corporation.
Copyright© BeechTalk, LLC 2007-2024
|
|
|
|