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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 09 Apr 2021, 22:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: Reams, Biden said it himself. It's obviously a mistake, though it's getting quite a bit of traction in mostly partisan media and tabloid journalism. Flight Global's article edited Biden's comments so that the quote correctly says 2,100. https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+2 ... e&ie=UTF-8So, they “quoted” him incorrectly.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 00:00 |
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Username Protected wrote: Reams, Biden said it himself. It's obviously a mistake, though it's getting quite a bit of traction in mostly partisan media and tabloid journalism. Flight Global's article edited Biden's comments so that the quote correctly says 2,100. https://www.google.com/search?q=biden+2 ... e&ie=UTF-8So, they “quoted” him incorrectly. Careful, Tom. He might sick the AFT after you.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 05:10 |
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Username Protected wrote: All POTUSs are bad with numbers. All of them. I thought POTUS 54 did okay.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 07:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: All POTUSs are bad with numbers. All of them. True, but he went on to confidently cite the example of being able to circumnavigate the globe in an hour.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 08:24 |
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Username Protected wrote: Optimism boys.
Si, se pwodway. Really? We can barely go that speed in space. I'm an eternal optimist but.......
If’n you have to explain it..........but I will.
See, the Pres made a gaffe with the speed thing. He does that. A lot. His “ Dr Jill” wife was in Cali recently and finished a speech to a local Hispanic group and finished with “Si se pwodway” which was a laughable and meme-able gaffe on “ Si, se puede”..........a VERY popular rallying cry among the Hispanic community. It means “ Yes we can”.
Hence the tongue-in-cheek comment on optimism.
sigh.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 08:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: This HAS to go in "Brand X" because I don't know where else to post it;
This just came from President Biden:
"We’re going to talk about commercial aircraft flying at subsonic speeds — supersonic speeds. To be able, figuratively, if you may, if we decide to do it, traverse the world in about an hour, travel 21,000 miles an hour".
Has anyone seen spy photos of the prototype yet? Anyone care to speculate on the design? BTW, the Space Shuttle only travels at 17,500 MPH. In space.
Man, I can't WAIT to see this one rolled out................... Ron - Don't know where you got that quote, but FLIGHT GLOBAL has it as 2,100 mph... “If we decided to do it”, such aircraft will “travel 2,100 miles per hour”, he adds . https://www.flightglobal.com/airframers/president-biden-talks-of-supersonic-travel-within-10-years/143213.articleReams
Uh, no. He quite clearly says "21,000 miles per hour" and said it in the context of flying around the world in one hour (still 3,000 miles short if I remember my dimensions correctly).
All of the "But he meant" in the world still doesn't change the fact that it could possibly be the most ill informed statement that I have heard in a LONG time. Whoever is feeding him stuff to claim needs to take a physics course.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 08:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: All POTUSs are bad with numbers. All of them. I thought POTUS 54 did okay. I read where Vlad has been elected to serve two more terms.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 09:02 |
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Username Protected wrote: All POTUSs are bad with numbers. All of them. True, but he went on to confidently cite the example of being able to circumnavigate the globe in an hour. Let's circle back to that.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 09:36 |
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Username Protected wrote: All POTUSs are bad with numbers. All of them. True, but he went on to confidently cite the example of being able to circumnavigate the globe in an hour. Understood. I didn't mean to imply that we haven't had presidents that are good at math, just that all of them have, some more than others, pulled numbers out of their arse on the fly.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 09:45 |
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Username Protected wrote: Si, se pwodway. Ah you just made my saturday I’ve been looking for a new signature. Classic
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 10:05 |
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Username Protected wrote: Uh, no. He quite clearly says "21,000 miles per hour" and said it in the context of flying around the world in one hour (still 3,000 miles short if I remember my dimensions correctly).
All of the "But he meant" in the world still doesn't change the fact that it could possibly be the most ill informed statement that I have heard in a LONG time. Whoever is feeding him stuff to claim needs to take a physics course.
Agree. He clearly said it and clearly meant what he said. The fact that, as you wrote, it was "ill-informed" can not be cleaned up by all the apologists out there. If indeed he did "mean" 2,100mph, that's a pretty low bar on which to spend hundreds of billions of dollars considering that the SR-71 first flew in 1962 and that there are private companies developing passenger planes with that level of performance without "infrastructure spending". Finally, if it were possible to travel at 21,000 mph and for me to be in Tokyo in an hour or two, or even 2,100 mph and be there in 5 hours (don't forget taxi, takeoff, approach, landing, and taxiing again), it's nowhere near as fast as getting to Tokyo on a Zoom call. The real 21st century "infrastructure" is digital and is being built every day by people we've never heard of.
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Post subject: Re: 21,000 MPH Commercial travel? Posted: 10 Apr 2021, 10:06 |
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So, here is a little reality. NASA is currently building the Low Boom Flight Demonstration X-plane, and the fuselage will be finished this year. The goal of the LBFD mission is to conduct a series of community response test to provide data to ICAO which would support future supersonic overland flight. Currently, the only commercial supersonic flight is oceanic under the exemption that was developed for Concord. https://www.nasa.gov/press-release/nasa-s-x-59-quiet-supersonic-research-aircraft-cleared-for-final-assemblyNASA is also looking to the future going even faster, and potentially developing a Mach 5 capable commercial transport. “High-speed flight represents the next frontier in commercial passenger travel and has the potential to radically impact how people interact. NASA looks forward to working with Hermeus towards that faster future,” said Chuck Leonard, project manager of NASA’s Hypersonic Technology Project (HTP). https://www.aero-mag.com/hypersonic-commercial-flight-26032021/
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