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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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2007 T182T G1000 with a GFC 700 AP. Great simple airplane. Very comfortable. Really hits a sweet spot for most of us. Any mechanic can work on it and not mess it up. Fully supported. A get in and go airplane.

The turbo and factory O2 opens up a nice chunk of sky from 8-18k if you want it or need it.


I understand why Cessna did not install the 300hp 540t motor to create spread with the 206 turbo but for the life of me I do not understand why no one has come up with an STC to make that install. A restart 182 with 300hp from a turbocharged motor would be the bomb for mountain flying I would think. The Wipaire 580 install makes little sense to me.

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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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Have owned both a 260hp 182T and a non-turbo 206H. Other than a slight decrease in efficiency, the 206H has been the better plane for our use. By the time you put a 550 or 580 on a 182, you might as well get the extra payload and room of a stationair. Speed is a wash.

It sometimes surprises me that both of the aircraft exist in the same product line. They have the same wingspan, but the fuselage of the 206 is actually 9in shorter than the 182.


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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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I have time in the 182RG and the T182RG. In my experience, unless you flew the T182RG in the teens there was little advantage in the turbocharging. Below 10,000' feet it was no faster and used more gas than its normally aspirated sibling.

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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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It sometimes surprises me that both of the aircraft exist in the same product line. They have the same wingspan, but the fuselage of the 206 is actually 9in shorter than the 182.


Fun fact: the 172, 182, and 206 all have the same wingspan, airfoil, and wing area. The 206 has more flaps and less ailerons. I was surprised to see the overall length is shorter than the 182.


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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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Naturally aspirated motors are a better solution for below about 5000’ and in the 5000-12500’ a supercharger is better.. turbos do their best above 14,000 and very few people fly a 182 above 12,500

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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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Naturally aspirated motors are a better solution for below about 5000’ and in the 5000-12500’ a supercharger is better.. turbos do their best above 14,000 and very few people fly a 182 above 12,500

https://www.forcedaeromotive.com/products/cessna/


People should buy whatever works for their mission, but I will say that I have taken off in the summer from mountain airports over 12K DA MANY times. In winter flying piston singles IFR I MUCH prefer to top and to do so I have had to go above 180 many times. Even flying VFR in the SW getting above the afternoon bumps almost always requires mid-teens. I can't comment on a supercharger since the factory doesn't offer them, but a turbo is definitely useful for most pilots IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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As 182P fixed gear turbo-normalized owner, I’m quite fortunate to have found this rare plane a few years ago.

High-Hot-Heavy is nearly a non-factor. Out West flying 5K-6K SGL over the Sierras or Rockies is terrific. Climbing over 700’/min over at 16K MSL or cruising 165 KTAS comes in handy.

I have the Rajay STC with manual waste gates. The beauty of the system is when the waste gates are open, the plane flies like a box-stock 182 with an O-470R. I frequently fly about 2” over square up high, another feature of the turbo providing greater power setting flexibility.

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 Post subject: Re: cessna 182 turbo
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I owned a 182 with the forced aeromotive supercharger and was not very impressed with reliability, threw several belts and would not want that when really needed. I own and have owned several turbo 210's and can say they work well for high density altitude airports as well as finding smoother air when needed. My 2cents


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Patrick, we had a gorgeous 1983 Cessna TR182 and absolutely loved it. Good performance about 160-165 TAS with reasonable fuel burn, nice useful load and factory O2 if you wanna get up high and take advantage of winds or navigate wx. The ONLY reason we sold it and got our current bonanza is we just needed more room than the TR182's four seats offered. Mx was very reasonable and a very fun plane to fly and great cross country performer.

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for the life of me I do not understand why no one has come up with an STC to make that install.
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One simple answer: G1000


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I fly a 1981 T182 one of a very few that was ever made (I was told 32). It is basically a 182RG with fixed gear it actually still has the area under the engine for the nose gear to retract into. We put the Wing-X STOL kit on it last year and removed the factory A/C and Oxy Systems.

Makes one of the best back country load haulers you can find in my opinion while still allowing cross country at high altitude and decent TAS. I have a portable Oxy System that I take on long cross countries and have been up to 16,500 with it a few times.

Funny story about it. When we acquired it the flight manual was in shambles. We called Cessna to get an updated one and the said "We never built that airplane." After talking to a few different people we finally got what we needed but I got a chuckle out of it.


I've got an 82 T182 with the RSTOL . Can't beat the lycoming, been to 17,300 with no problems. Why did you remove the factory Ox and air conditioner? How did the A/c work?


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I fly a 1981 T182 one of a very few that was ever made (I was told 32). It is basically a 182RG with fixed gear it actually still has the area under the engine for the nose gear to retract into. We put the Wing-X STOL kit on it last year and removed the factory A/C and Oxy Systems.

Makes one of the best back country load haulers you can find in my opinion while still allowing cross country at high altitude and decent TAS. I have a portable Oxy System that I take on long cross countries and have been up to 16,500 with it a few times.

Funny story about it. When we acquired it the flight manual was in shambles. We called Cessna to get an updated one and the said "We never built that airplane." After talking to a few different people we finally got what we needed but I got a chuckle out of it.


I've got an 82 T182 with the RSTOL . Can't beat the lycoming, been to 17,300 with no problems. Why did you remove the factory Ox and air conditioner? How did the A/c work?


We have Very similar planes. 2 unicorns. Mine is 182P w/Rajay turbo and R/STOL kit. Unbelievable mountain bird.
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