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Curious for all you PC12 folks, would you ever buy a -41? Other than the lower useful load, what else is a negative compared to a -45? Is it fair to say that these hold their value far less than other models unless the upgrade is completed?


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Personal opinion but I can’t stand flying them. They handle like @#$t. The early ailerons sucked. It’s still a pc-12 but hand flying them really is not pleasurable.

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...hand flying them really is not pleasurable.

Have you flown a Twin Cessna?

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Curious for all you PC12 folks, would you ever buy a -41? Other than the lower useful load, what else is a negative compared to a -45? Is it fair to say that these hold their value far less than other models unless the upgrade is completed?


Are there any -41s flying? If I remember correctly, making them a -45 is just a paperwork exercise.


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 Post subject: Re: PC12-41
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Curious for all you PC12 folks, would you ever buy a -41? Other than the lower useful load, what else is a negative compared to a -45? Is it fair to say that these hold their value far less than other models unless the upgrade is completed?


Are there any -41s flying? If I remember correctly, making them a -45 is just a paperwork exercise.


Well, I know at least one. I've been told it's about 150-180k to convert.

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Well, I know at least one. I've been told it's about 150-180k to convert.


Quite the unicorn then. They did not make many to start with (they only built them for 2 years), and every one I've seen has since been converted.

It's the same plane as /45, just a service bulletin to complete. The converted planes still have the /41 weights in the AOM, its just an appendix for the new performance charts.

Some people complain about the non-Flettner ailerons. I don't mind them, but that's a personal preference. You need a /47 to get the tabs.


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Well, I know at least one. I've been told it's about 150-180k to convert.


Quite the unicorn then. They did not make many to start with (they only built them for 2 years), and every one I've seen has since been converted.

It's the same plane as /45, just a service bulletin to complete. The converted planes still have the /41 weights in the AOM, its just an appendix for the new performance charts.

Some people complain about the non-Flettner ailerons. I don't mind them, but that's a personal preference. You need a /47 to get the tabs.


So what work is needed to actually convert the plane- I've seen numbers like 180k tossed around to complete this. Once completed, does a converted 41 carry the same value as a 45?

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