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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 23:19 |
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Aircraft: C177RG, ATOS-VR
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P210 with Vitatoe conversion and possibly Flint tanks.
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 23:26 |
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Machen V35? One for sale somewhere. RAS
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 23:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: My aerostar does my mission 4 ppl 200+ knots 800nm No O2.
What else will do this? What would do this with lowest op cost? What would do this with the lowest cost including cost of capital?
I'd like the cabin < 8Kft. So non pressurized is ok as long as it does 200+Knots at < 8Kft.
Experiments with decent safety record are ok... Lancair ESP is ok, but cap cost is hi. Lancair IV all flavors scares me... Cessna P210N with a Vitatoe TN550. 200 KTAS at 17.5k’ 800NM including climb/decent ~76 Gal, 89 usable in wings. 90 gal (wings full) gives you 710 lbs of useable load Below FL180, the cabin altitude is <8k’ Higher goes faster Aux tank to go farther/more reserve I put a few gallons in the baggage tank when traveling that far.
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 23:37 |
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E-55 with 550s & 166 gallon tanks.
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 23:43 |
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Piper Malibu. 200 Kts, pressurized, 15.5-16 gph.
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 22 Oct 2020, 23:57 |
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Joined: 06/04/18 Posts: 116 Post Likes: +88 Company: Commander, 79th FS Location: Sumter, SC
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Username Protected wrote: Will a P210 really do 200KTAS? At 17.5? Yes, on 17.5 gph. Assuming it’s the TN550 setup 215 KTAS at FL230, 1000fpm, no cooling issues.
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 23 Oct 2020, 01:06 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'd like the cabin < 8Kft. So non pressurized is ok as long as it does 200+Knots at < 8Kft.
Surely most MEAs from the West Coast are considerably greater than 8K ft?
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 23 Oct 2020, 02:12 |
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E55 or Piper Matrix (a bit slower than 200k down low)
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Post subject: Re: Lowest op cost plane for 4 ppl 200knot, 800nm, no O2 Posted: 23 Oct 2020, 06:55 |
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