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Post subject: Re: Flying the R44 Raven II Posted: 15 Aug 2020, 00:24 |
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Congratulations on your new ride, or magic carpet, to be more precise. I totally agree on the fun part of rotorcraft, and your post brought back many fond recollections. I ran a small flight school with three R 22's, and greatly enjoyed it. I recall helping Frank Robinson correct the wear that the push-pull rods were having on the fairlead right behind the cabin bulkhead. R 44's were not out yet, and I missed having one for my operation, as life got in the way. Most fun was going to work in the machine: The helipad at the hospital was spacious, and the only time I had any problem was when a prima donna neurosurgeon complained about me... I think he was sore because his Porsche couldn't fly, or perhaps because many a young nurse was delighted to share lunch with me atop the mountain that presides over my hometown. Autorotations in the R-22 were about as exciting as landings in the Pitts Special... not much room for error. I once did one in a Hughes turbine, and could have had lunch on the way down. Thank you for rekindling great memories, I know yours will be similar.
Tom
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Post subject: Re: Flying the R44 Raven II Posted: 15 Aug 2020, 00:31 |
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Can you share details on costs for maintenance, how’s the 12 year 2,200 hour thing? Is it expensive to comply with?,
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Post subject: Re: Flying the R44 Raven II Posted: 15 Aug 2020, 04:08 |
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Username Protected wrote: Can you share details on costs for maintenance, how’s the 12 year 2,200 hour thing? Is it expensive to comply with?, I think a 12 year overhaul is on the order of 50-60% of the list price of a new R44. ...and Congrats Michael! 
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Post subject: Re: Flying the R44 Raven II Posted: 15 Aug 2020, 07:55 |
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Username Protected wrote: Can you share details on costs for maintenance, how’s the 12 year 2,200 hour thing? Is it expensive to comply with?, To the best of my knowledge, no one part 91 is doing the 12 year overhaul if they haven't hit the 2,200 hour mark. At 12 years, most 91 operators are just replacing the blades. Mine got new blades from the previous owner which were about 60K. So, it's $5K a year in blade amortization. At 2,200, depending on what shop you use, it's around 200-250K to do the full overhaul but that includes new blades which you may or may not need and could sell. Long story short, at 675 hours TTSN, it is going to cost me about $100/hour in airframe depreciation and about 15 GPH to fly. It's going in for its annual inspection at the end of this month and it was flat rated at $1,700. Let's say $2,500 out the door. Seriously, its operating costs aren't much different than a 182.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the R44 Raven II Posted: 15 Aug 2020, 09:18 |
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Username Protected wrote: Can you share details on costs for maintenance, how’s the 12 year 2,200 hour thing? Is it expensive to comply with?, To the best of my knowledge, no one part 91 is doing the 12 year overhaul if they haven't hit the 2,200 hour mark. At 12 years, most 91 operators are just replacing the blades. Mine got new blades from the previous owner which were about 60K. So, it's $5K a year in blade amortization. At 2,200, depending on what shop you use, it's around 200-250K to do the full overhaul but that includes new blades which you may or may not need and could sell. Long story short, at 675 hours TTSN, it is going to cost me about $100/hour in airframe depreciation and about 15 GPH to fly. It's going in for its annual inspection at the end of this month and it was flat rated at $1,700. Let's say $2,500 out the door. Seriously, its operating costs aren't much different than a 182.
Except the insurance premium (based on what I've read).
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Post subject: Re: Flying the R44 Raven II Posted: 15 Aug 2020, 09:24 |
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^^^^^^ This Include hull coverage and tell us the numbers. 
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