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 Post subject: Gyro Add-On …
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Thinking about doing a gyro add-on. Anyone BTDT?

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I looked into. I have RH already.

Most places seem to be aimed at doing an LSA RG rating. I would want to do a Comm


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I'm sitting here wondering whether or not I should comment... I fear my comment will sound pretty upity despite my best intentions. :duck:

OK, so here goes - damn the torpedos! :eek:

In the USA the requirements for gyro training are, frankly, dangerously inadequate. We frequently see the same type of accident occurring, especially with fixed-wing pilots who have transitioned to gyros. Rotor management (where to move the stick during critical phases of flight) is so often to blame. It takes a lot of training to "un-learn" the instinctive fixed-wing pilot's stick movements on takeoff, flaring to land and particularly in go-around events. Insufficient training allows the fixed wing pilot to revert to the things they learned first in fixed wing aircraft - this primacy is very difficult to overcome, and only extensive training in the gyro will help hone the gyro pilot's instincts to move the stick in the right direction.

Here's a video which talks about it in some detail.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT2GaoO ... flyingclub

In Canada a significantly greater amount of training is required and, unsurprisingly, the accident statistics reflect the benefits of that training. Unfortunately it is still impossible to buy passenger liability insurance in Canada because the high accident rate in the USA swamps the smaller but safer operational experience in Canada.

So... if you want to fly a gyro be prepared to do far more training than the legal minimum. Look to Canada's regulations as a guideline for what your transition training should be. Too little training and, in particular, too little experience in rotor management is very likely to bring about a horribly negative outcome.

Sorry for casting gloom on the topic. Gyro's have been proven to be quite safe with adequate pilot training. Plus they are a ton of fun.


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