I was typed in the 500 series and the 525 series. Then I got typed in the 510. Initial is in the low 20’s. Recurrent is 7k. You can skip the piston twin and go straight to the mustang. Probably safer.

I agree with Mark. I got my multi the year before I bought my Mustang. Had <20 hrs of multi when I went to FSI for my type 5 years ago. Multi time wasn’t significant in the process. Now pushing 1,000 hrs in the Mustang. The big factor currently is insurance. Not sure what hoops I’d have to jump through now.

I totally agree - insurance in the Mustang class is not that hard to come by even for 500-750 hrs total time Cirrus/Bonanza drivers with no MEL time in their logbook. You will have a mentor period of time if you are low time, low or nil MEL time etc but getting 'reasonable' insurance is not an issue. There remains good capacity in the insurance underwriting world for the sub $2m pre-owned Mustang. We see most trading on programs around the $1.5m insured value mark and at that pricepoint insurance premiums can actually be in the 'teens' for some jet transition pilots while others might creep into the 20's (lower overall time, perhaps no prior MEL etc). The key is hull value - and hull value on pre-owned Mustangs is below $2m. There is absolutely no reason to buy a temporary time builder piston twin when your objective is a light jet in this class (Mustang, Phenom 100 or other). Buy your last airplane first and with the right transition plan in place insurance can be a relatively smooth path.

The short runway performance is compelling. I recently hauled a load of guys on a hunting trip and half went with me in the Pilatus and other half in a citation V. The jet had to go to an airport 60 miles away, and then I ran shuttle back and forth bringing them and their stuff. The jet is not faster in this type of scenario... but the 510 would have no issue, of course it can’t haul as much though.

I came out of a Meridian. Believe I was around 1200 hours, and no multi. Did my multi training and type in the Mustang after I purchased. Insurance was about the same as Meridian.

Can’t say enough good things about the Mustang. It really does outperform.

Mark, very nice, congrats on the new spot. Casey backing you up I see.
I do think you boys need a few more screens........

Dat's why I'm still in the PC12.....it's just so damn good in so many scenarios, and it carries water equipment and stuff better than any airplane I have looked at.

Have a customer looking at Mustangs, asked for average price for HSI, I was shocked when told by Pratt they have been averaging $140K per engine. Asked for typical First run OH and was told P&W encourages exchange do to needed updates, average cost $435K and up per engine.

Does not leave a lot of residual value to airframe. Pratt OH costs have greatly diluted value on earlier Citations making them a throw away airframe with high time engines.

The JT15D offers many places to go for OH. P&W is the only option on the little PW615.

I fly a Mustang now as well and I just did my multi checkride (in a DA42) and Mustang type rating in the same day. I had no real desire to spend any time in a piston twin and was hoping the DPE would allow me to get the multi in the Mustang but he wanted to see VMC demo and feathering the prop on engine shutdown. Mildly annoying and made for a longer and more expensive day but I got it done and I only have something like 3 hours of piston multi time in my logbook.

And I know you were asking Mark the question about his previous time but I’ll answer it also - prior to the Mustang, I had 2400 hours of piston single, almost all of it in SR22s.

HSI for my Mustang in 2018 was $105k/engine. Probably 10 years from OH at this point, but program reserves look to be on track to be adequate.

Cool!
I met a pilot who went from gliders to jet. Zero piston time.
Yes, in India, and he is an excellent pilot.

Randy, thanks for that. Pretty much identical to my friends experience with the Cirrus too, but he was about 1100 in that, he had some older single hours too. I’m very intrigued by this plane, and if they are on programs, I still find it hard to beat for a family plane. I am expecting to take a trip to Florida with the family in the Mustang, and he wanted to expose my wife to the plane as well so I will be right seat, gaining some more experience in it (note I am not qualified to fly it and will not be logging time).

It's a great family traveling airplane... Here is my traveling circus on the way back from my in-laws'

Oh man... massive potential for a diaper blowout!!