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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect  Posted: 19 Nov 2020, 18:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Are you guys with mustangs comfy on a 3500 ft runway? [youtube]https://youtu.be/usNTfYwzMZc[/youtube] 2050 feet
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 16:43 |
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Than is impressive Mark! What airport was that? If it was in the video, I missed it.
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 22:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: Than is impressive Mark! What airport was that? If it was in the video, I missed it. KFCM. Flying Cloud.
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 20 Nov 2020, 23:27 |
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Username Protected wrote: Than is impressive Mark! What airport was that? If it was in the video, I missed it. KFCM. Flying Cloud.
Isn't that a 5,000 ft runway? or did you mean that you landed in 2050 ft?
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 22 Nov 2020, 21:21 |
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Username Protected wrote: Runway 18. You can hear the controller say the exit I took was 2050 down the runway. I'd love to see the inside of your jet. Next time you come to FCM please give me a call, and I'll take you to lunch. FWIW, while I'm comfortable landing on 18/36 in the Baron I never, ever use that runway for takeoff. Per my calculations it takes a 35 Kt wind right down the runway to give the same takeoff margins as 28L/10R which is the runway I always use. What is the minimum runway length for your airplane if you're light and there's a 15 Kt headwind on takeoff?
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 22 Nov 2020, 22:44 |
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Username Protected wrote: Runway 18. You can hear the controller say the exit I took was 2050 down the runway. I'd love to see the inside of your jet. Next time you come to FCM please give me a call, and I'll take you to lunch. FWIW, while I'm comfortable landing on 18/36 in the Baron I never, ever use that runway for takeoff. Per my calculations it takes a 35 Kt wind right down the runway to give the same takeoff margins as 28L/10R which is the runway I always use. What is the minimum runway length for your airplane if you're light and there's a 15 Kt headwind on takeoff?
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 22 Nov 2020, 23:29 |
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Username Protected wrote: I guessing the numbers in the first table represent the accel stop and accel go distances at different weights. If so it looks like the very last line suggests that you'd only run 3 ft off the end of 18 for an abort at V1 under those conditions, correct?
I don't understand the first column though, what's that mean? Temperature in Celsius and corresponding power settings. Which given it fadec don't really matter. Note that is near MAX weight too
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 23 Nov 2020, 04:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: I guessing the numbers in the first table represent the accel stop and accel go distances at different weights. If so it looks like the very last line suggests that you'd only run 3 ft off the end of 18 for an abort at V1 under those conditions, correct? TOFL / L/O Altitude Andrew
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 23 Nov 2020, 04:22 |
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Username Protected wrote: Note that is near MAX weight too Hi Mark, Can you run that with summer temperatures? Say 27 degrees? Interested to see the performance of the 510 compared to 525. Andrew
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Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect Posted: 24 Nov 2020, 22:53 |
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Mark, maybe I read this somewhere already but I can’t remember now. What did you fly before the Mustang? How was initial transition/type rating training? I don’t have a multi cert yet but would like to get one with something like this plane being my end goal. I really have no desire to build a bunch of time in a piston twin but I suppose that’s how it will have to be. I guess, to me, it seems like a reasonable transition from a glass panel twin with demonstrated ability.
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