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 Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect
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I think the gear overhaul is the big one which historically has been around $150,000. But third party companies have started doing it cheaper now. 100 also has a lav, more room in the back seats. Not sure about cockpit space, 100 is a bit tight for taller folks. Sketchy braking as well on the 100. 60 kts faster, no minimum hours for programs either.

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Agree with this. At 6'6" the Mustang is pretty good and the P100 is a non starter. I just can't wedge myself in there.


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 Post subject: Re: If the Mustang does your mission, it's darn near perfect
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I think the gear overhaul is the big one which historically has been around $150,000. But third party companies have started doing it cheaper now. 100 also has a lav, more room in the back seats. Not sure about cockpit space, 100 is a bit tight for taller folks. Sketchy braking as well on the 100. 60 kts faster, no minimum hours for programs either.

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Agree with this. At 6'6" the Mustang is pretty good and the P100 is a non starter. I just can't wedge myself in there.


I don’t think anyone can have anything other than positive comments about the size and ease of ingress / egress in the Mustang
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i love everything about the mustang, except the speed.

if it could break 400, it'd be a way different conversation. my longest flight is 685nm (a difference of 22 minutes). more commonly they are 300nm. so on my best day only saving 45' (less actually) of flight, hard to justify for the extra time required for type cert.

but 400 kts is a 1.68 hr flight. savings of 1.1 hours per r/t.

what's the requirement of time and cost for initial?

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I think the gear overhaul is the big one which historically has been around $150,000. But third party companies have started doing it cheaper now. 100 also has a lav, more room in the back seats. Not sure about cockpit space, 100 is a bit tight for taller folks. Sketchy braking as well on the 100. 60 kts faster, no minimum hours for programs either.

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Agree with this. At 6'6" the Mustang is pretty good and the P100 is a non starter. I just can't wedge myself in there.


FYI - There is a P100 SB to remove the POH/AFM book shelf and extend the seat tracks. Not sure how many extra inches it provides but must be at least 3-4". Not sure if the next production version will make this standard. I'm 6'1" and fit great in the 100. My 6'-5" friend does not; I think the SB would resolve the issue.

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i love everything about the mustang, except the speed.

if it could break 400, it'd be a way different conversation. my longest flight is 685nm (a difference of 22 minutes). more commonly they are 300nm. so on my best day only saving 45' (less actually) of flight, hard to justify for the extra time required for type cert.

but 400 kts is a 1.68 hr flight. savings of 1.1 hours per r/t.

what's the requirement of time and cost for initial?


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I think the gear overhaul is the big one which historically has been around $150,000. But third party companies have started doing it cheaper now. 100 also has a lav, more room in the back seats. Not sure about cockpit space, 100 is a bit tight for taller folks. Sketchy braking as well on the 100. 60 kts faster, no minimum hours for programs either.

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What is the program minimum for the Mustang?


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I think the gear overhaul is the big one which historically has been around $150,000. But third party companies have started doing it cheaper now. 100 also has a lav, more room in the back seats. Not sure about cockpit space, 100 is a bit tight for taller folks. Sketchy braking as well on the 100. 60 kts faster, no minimum hours for programs either.

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What is the program minimum for the Mustang?


I was able to negotiate 100 hr minimum when I purchased mine. Have been over that every year though.
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That is good to hear. I had heard the minimum was 150 hours. Are you just on the engine program or parts too?


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That is good to hear. I had heard the minimum was 150 hours. Are you just on the engine program or parts too?


I am on engines and pro parts. Don’t see the value in the maintenance program, and wish I hadn’t done the parts program. Seemed like a good idea being my first jet at the time.

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That is good to hear. I had heard the minimum was 150 hours. Are you just on the engine program or parts too?


I am gathering from your interest, that we will have yet another meridian driver making the transition? Was a nice transition out of the Meridian, and I love the plane.

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That is good to hear. I had heard the minimum was 150 hours. Are you just on the engine program or parts too?


I am gathering from your interest, that we will have yet another meridian driver making the transition? Was a nice transition out of the Meridian, and I love the plane.

You are a very wise man. I've been looking hard at it. Did you do your type rating and multi at the same time, in the Mustang?

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[/quote]You are a very wise man. I've been looking hard at it. Did you do your type rating and multi at the same time, in the Mustang?[/quote]

Yes sir. Did the multi in aircraft during type check ride. I see you have the avidyne set up. I had quite a bit of time behind the g1000 so it helped tremendously during the transition, but you will still be fine. Your not gonna miss slugging along IMC at 28k, I promise you that.

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i love everything about the mustang, except the speed.

if it could break 400, it'd be a way different conversation. my longest flight is 685nm (a difference of 22 minutes). more commonly they are 300nm. so on my best day only saving 45' (less actually) of flight, hard to justify for the extra time required for type cert.

but 400 kts is a 1.68 hr flight. savings of 1.1 hours per r/t.

what's the requirement of time and cost for initial?

I can double for speed for $75k. Ask me how. :scratch:

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I can double for speed for $75k. Ask me how. :scratch:


Active winglets?


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I can double for speed for $75k. Ask me how. :scratch:


Active winglets?


No. But good guess. Green and all.


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