My average mission last year was about 500nm. My average block rate was 90 gph. At high altitude cruise, my burn is is 75gph.

A 250nm leg is roughly 55 minutes. A lot of variables on that short of a flight. Fuel would be about 90 gal.

No sir! We do not sell airplanes.

We only represent buyers. It doesn't matter to me if our clients buy a Mustang, an M2... a M600, TBM, a CJ-whatever, an XLS... a Lear 75, a Hawker, a Challenger... or a King Air.

I'm often accused of all of my post being advertising, and I guess they are in a way... but the reality is we maintain a full load of clients so I'm not out trolling for business, I start these post so that people can find them and learn from them.

For about 15 years I was on the sales side, sold older Lears and Citations... I hated the Mustang because I didn't understand it. I always thought "why not just buy a Citation II... it's cheaper and does more" when you flip to the buyers side and start to understand the entire ownership experience your mindset shifts and you begin to appreciate airplanes that were designed for more than go fast, carry a load.

well since it’s the perfect airplane for me, I’ll just go buy one.


Me thinks you must think your on a different board.

Am thinking about a step to a Jet mainly for speed. What's true range for the mustang with just me and the wife?

1250nm VFR destination, 1150nm IFR destination +/- wind with up to 600lb payload.

That is a little short for some of my missions, did you look at the M2?

For a while I thought I was going to get a Mustang. It seemed to make sense as the M2 was too much and I wanted more speed than the 421. Main mission is 4 people and bags 1000nm and able to do that in close to 4 hours in some headwind.

441 beats the Mustang in all factors except speed and coolness. Speed is close, within 10% and I'm already at peace with not being cool.

That is a little short for some of my missions, did you look at the M2?

I can stuff my tanks, (sometimes up to 2700 pounds), load my wife and I, (about 340 pounds ) and put around 100 pounds of cargo, and still leave with almost 400 pounds of legally useful load. My 1000nm mission right now at 40k would put about 43 knots on the nose. Gets me there in just over 3:30, and I would expect to land with around 700 pounds. Easy trip. My SOP is to really look hard at any leg that would keep me airborne over 3:45. Of course add in IFR at destination along with other factors, and that number changes. I have split my mission pretty evenly between flying light and solo, and with my wife and loaded with cargo. Other than feeling heavy coming off the runway, I just don’t see any significant performance penalty with the weight. I realize it is there, but it is just not significant enough for me to notice it.

And interior noise. Mustang is much quieter without those paddles outside beating the air.

And interior noise. Mustang is much quieter without those paddles outside beating the air.

And how much would a decent Mustang cost? And if only was going to use it 75 hours a year is it even worth it?

And interior noise. Mustang is much quieter without those paddles outside beating the air.

I have that in the PC12. What I'm looking for is increased speed, still have the range AND get above most weather. Even at 30k I'm still looking at nasty weather, especially when crossing fronts. I got the jet guys giggling as they pass overhead CAVU

Michael,

Remember that the “jet” guys are still working stiffs, don’t live on a Caribbean island and most are on the “other” guys schedule and dime.

PS they can’t keep up with you on a surf board and only MH has a chance of beating you down the mountain. Put him on a snow board and that advantage disappears again.

OK I’ve had my lunch fix...