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 Post subject: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
PostPosted: 20 Jul 2020, 16:27 
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Does anyone have a copy of the performance section of the pilot operating handbook for a "straight" 1958 or 1959 O-540 powered AC 500 that I could take a peak at?

Thanks!


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 Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
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At first I was going to say "Sure!" but then I actually looked in the manual - there is no performance data! The 1958 manual is 14 pages from beginning to end.

Operating Limitations - 2 pages
Operating Procedures - 6 pages
Emergency Procedures - 2 pages
Autopilot - 4 pages

The W&B is an insert.

Under "Operating Procedures" you'll find the "Cruise Check" checklist. Step 1 says "Set cruise power from Pilot's Check List" - so I'm guessing that's where you find the performance data. I don't have that document.

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 Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
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Jim, thanks! It seems to be a trend!

I ordered a manual from Pilot Mall and it also came without a performance section, even though the pre-amble mentions it as a supplement. I called Pilot Mall to ask about it and they quickly confirmed with their supplier that in fact the performance section was’t included in the manual. Pilot Mall is crediting me a refund.

Since the pre-amble mentions the performance supplement, I’m hoping someone might have one, or created one maybe?


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 Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
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I'm guessing this is it:

https://www.eflightmanuals.com/ITEM_EFM ... p?mID=2191

$11.

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 Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
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Thanks Jim. But no luck. That download was just what it said it was...a check list for normal operations plus a few emergency procedures. No performance data.


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 Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
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Paging Bruce Byerly! Paging Bruce Byerly!

Mr. Byerly, please pick up the white courtesy phone!

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Seriously, if Bruce does not have a copy he is bound to know where one is...

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 Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
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Does anyone have a copy of the performance section of the pilot operating handbook for a "straight" 1958 or 1959 O-540 powered AC 500 that I could take a peak at?

Thanks!


this is on ebay now. may be the one you already have but it does show an example performance page.


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 Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 500 O-540 250hp Performance
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Nice find Wayne! That 500U manual would be for an AC with 290HP IO-540s, not the 250HP non-injected O-540s.


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Might want to check out these guys.

https://www.esscoaircraft.com/c-2443-ae ... eries.aspx

https://www.esscoaircraft.com/c-2449-ae ... eries.aspx

I've had very good results from them in the past.


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Hi Bob, they were the supplier of the manual I bought through Pilot Mall that I referred to in the earlier post. And no go. They don't have the performance supplement available to include with the manual.

BTW, its been a few years since our 737 days. Hope you and yours are doing well!


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Paging Bruce Byerly! Paging Bruce Byerly!

Mr. Byerly, please pick up the white courtesy phone!

:D

Seriously, if Bruce does not have a copy he is bound to know where one is...

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I don’t have a copy on my drive as I stick to the later models but I believe you can buy one brand spanking new from Twin Commander Aircraft Corporation for a reasonable cost. For Commander & Cirrus parts contact Cameron Gleichman @ Byerly Aviation : 309-697-6300 Or William Rodriguez @ Naples Jet Center 239-649-7900

Either William or Cameron should be able to get the answer quickly. Thanks!


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So, what would the realistic cruise speed of a 250 hp 500 be?

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So, what would the realistic cruise speed of a 250 hp 500 be?

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About 160 knots at 9-10K at 24 gph as I recall. Typical of the era it will not go as fast as the book says it will. I recently parted out an undamaged one. Have a front pilot door, shrike nose, gear, lots of engine parts including OH crank, cylinders, carbs, accessories, cases, MV prop etc. if needed.


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