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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 08:47 |
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Joined: 05/23/08 Posts: 6059 Post Likes: +703 Location: CMB7, Ottawa, Canada
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$3.25M Will be interesting to see if they got FL340 as certified ceiling. https://www.ktvz.com/news/bend-s-epic-a ... 1139766982Username Protected wrote: Awesome!
Did they say what a Certified Epic will cost?
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 09:24 |
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Wow, a huge congrats, my absolute favorite turboprop. Still a big road ahead (icing cert), but a big milestone passed!
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 09:39 |
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Joined: 11/08/13 Posts: 1941 Post Likes: +1195 Location: KCRQ
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From the epic website this is a really interesting chart... https://3w0z92pp4tr2x6xhj4d00l3h-wpengi ... arther.pdfShows average flight length/ average time to get real block to block speeds.... Epic: 282 Shows Epic faster than:" SF50:249 Cessna Mustang M1:258 Phenom 100:275 Eclipse 550:266 Honda jet:272 Only thing in the chart beating this is a Mustang M2 (by 21 Knots.) 302
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 10:16 |
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Joined: 05/23/08 Posts: 6059 Post Likes: +703 Location: CMB7, Ottawa, Canada
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Also based on Flightaware which we all know is not very accurate. They do have a point if they climb faster they get to cruise speed faster . Username Protected wrote: That chart is a great illustration of how to lie with statistics.
Note this is fleet avg distance. Pretty much all the epics are based out west, so they fly longer legs, which means it’s in cruise longer, which means block speed is faster.
It’s a cool plane but I don’t like charts like this. Saying it’s “faster” than a Honda jet is just a lie.
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 10:56 |
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Username Protected wrote: Marie Osmond has an Epic and her brother Donny has a Mustang. And out of nowhere the jingle from the old "Hawaiian Punch" commercials is suddenly stuck in my head. Thanks for that...
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 11:09 |
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Username Protected wrote: Bigger than a TBM, faster than a PC12. If they can get to production without a major hiccup, this will be a huge success. I have wanted one since the first day I saw it on the ramp in Odessa. My only concern is the fact that they didn't have one at OSH. How could they be that close and not have one on display? Was there one at NBAA? They had a customer's Epic LT at NBAA (owned by a BT member I believe). It was all locked up. They had a mockup as well. It is very roomy and comfortable inside compared to my Meridian and the TBM.
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 11:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: That chart is a great illustration of how to lie with statistics.
Note this is fleet avg distance. Pretty much all the epics are based out west, so they fly longer legs, which means it’s in cruise longer, which means block speed is faster.
It’s a cool plane but I don’t like charts like this. Saying it’s “faster” than a Honda jet is just a lie. ...plus, they’re built in Oregon, so the type will have at least one more eastbound trip than the others
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 11:14 |
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Username Protected wrote: Bigger than a TBM, faster than a PC12. If they can get to production without a major hiccup, this will be a huge success. I have wanted one since the first day I saw it on the ramp in Odessa. My only concern is the fact that they didn't have one at OSH. How could they be that close and not have one on display? Was there one at NBAA? They had a customer's Epic LT at NBAA (owned by a BT member I believe). It was all locked up. They had a mockup as well. It is very roomy and comfortable inside compared to my Meridian and the TBM. That's all they have ever had at OSH also.
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 11:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: Bigger than a TBM, faster than a PC12.
That's not saying much
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Post subject: Re: Psst, Epic E1000 Posted: 07 Nov 2019, 11:31 |
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If only they could fit 8 seats in it (even a couple small ones) it would be perfect for me. Meridian/TBM too small and PC12 too big for me. It's not that big though, needs about 2' more in length.
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