BeechTalk - BT - New Piper M600 SLS with autoland announced

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 08:07

Press release from Piper https://www.piper.com/press-releases/pi ... -m600-sls/:

“[...]The system includes Auto-throttle, Emergency Descent Mode, Enhanced Stability and Protection, Surface Watch, Safe Taxi, Flight Stream connectivity and more. However, of greatest significance is the addition of Garmin Autoland – digital technology that safely lands the aircraft at the nearest suitable airport in the event that the pilot is incapacitated.

The Halo system, once engaged either automatically or by a passenger, gains immediate situational awareness and assumes control of all systems necessary to bring you and your passengers safely to the best suited runway.[...]”

Wondering whether they licensed/integrated Austin Myers’s Xavion application into the G3000 (and autopilot)?

Video from Aviation Consumer: https://youtu.be/d-ruFmgTpqA and Avweb article: https://www.avweb.com/aviation-news/gar ... 30%2C+2019.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 08:13

If this works it's a massive game changer. Turbine reliability, comfort, speed and Cirrus besting safety technology.

Wonder how long it will take for adoption and inclusion by other manufacturers. Its interesting that they point out it is Basic Med eligible as I would think that as pilots age they also understand better that they aren't bulletproof.

I remember years ago an employee who didn't want to fly with me in the Bonanza because of fear of "what happens if something happens to you" changed with the BRS system in the Cirrus. My wife did too although now that our kids are out of the house she is much more comfortable with her perceived risk.

I think autothrottle and all the envelope protections of the Garmin tech are great safety features but not sufficient for me to plunk down $4.3 million but if they put this on a TBM I'd buy a new one.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 08:36

I saw the av web video twice already. Very amazing technology and a game changer. I wonder if it works on international destinations?

Rgs

Patrick

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 09:51

Username Protected wrote:

If this works it's a massive game changer. Turbine reliability, comfort, speed and Cirrus besting safety technology.

Wonder how long it will take for adoption and inclusion by other manufacturers. Its interesting that they point out it is Basic Med eligible as I would think that as pilots age they also understand better that they aren't bulletproof.

I remember years ago an employee who didn't want to fly with me in the Bonanza because of fear of "what happens if something happens to you" changed with the BRS system in the Cirrus. My wife did too although now that our kids are out of the house she is much more comfortable with her perceived risk.

I think autothrottle and all the envelope protections of the Garmin tech are great safety features but not sufficient for me to plunk down $4.3 million but if they put this on a TBM I'd buy a new one.

It’s also available on the Cirrus Vision Jet. So, not Cirrus-besting technology. But! truly a game changer.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 10:21

Mid 2020 I will say we will see it in the TBM 940.

Username Protected wrote:

If this works it's a massive game changer. Turbine reliability, comfort, speed and Cirrus besting safety technology.

Wonder how long it will take for adoption and inclusion by other manufacturers. Its interesting that they point out it is Basic Med eligible as I would think that as pilots age they also understand better that they aren't bulletproof.

I remember years ago an employee who didn't want to fly with me in the Bonanza because of fear of "what happens if something happens to you" changed with the BRS system in the Cirrus. My wife did too although now that our kids are out of the house she is much more comfortable with her perceived risk.

I think autothrottle and all the envelope protections of the Garmin tech are great safety features but not sufficient for me to plunk down $4.3 million but if they put this on a TBM I'd buy a new one.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 10:25

Username Protected wrote:

It’s also available on the Cirrus Vision Jet. So, not Cirrus-besting technology. But! truly a game changer.

[youtube]http://youtu.be/PiGkzgfR_c0[/youtube]

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 20:35

Garmin just gut punched any non garmin single pilot planes (cough, Pilatus, cough).

Cool tech and implementation. Video is awesome. I never wanted a chute. I want this.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 21:13

Cessna needs to make this standard on the Denali, like immediately. The PC12 NGX just matched the Denali feature for feature except for pressurization, and it's available now. But this could tip the balance back in the Denali's favor, assuming it ever flies.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 30 Oct 2019, 21:41

Username Protected wrote:

Mid 2020 I will say we will see it in the TBM 940

That would be awesome. No reason not to.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2019, 06:33

I’m starting to really feel Neanderthal with the latest developments like this. I’m wondering when I will first be asked what a yoke is.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2019, 10:08

Username Protected wrote:

Garmin just gut punched any non garmin single pilot planes (cough, Pilatus, cough).

We can finally end that epidemic of PC12 fatalities from pilot incapacitation.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2019, 10:16

That auto land is sick.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2019, 10:17

Username Protected wrote:

Garmin just gut punched any non garmin single pilot planes (cough, Pilatus, cough).

We can finally end that epidemic of PC12 fatalities from pilot incapacitation.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2019, 10:30

Reassuring, but less significant than the blue button or hypoxia protection. Isn't it a lot more maintenance? Autothrottle, gear and flap switch, brake pump. Maybe the extra cost for an annual will be insignificant on a $4m+ airplane and pre-flight is probably automated.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 31 Oct 2019, 10:45

Username Protected wrote:

Reassuring, but less significant than the blue button or hypoxia protection. Isn't it a lot more maintenance? Autothrottle, gear and flap switch, brake pump. Maybe the extra cost for an annual will be insignificant on a $4m+ airplane and pre-flight is probably automated.

Other than the brake pump, it's all just software. Gear and flap switches have already been controlled by Garmin for a long time. Auto throttle is really just another $1000 servo. Interesting part is the ABS. Not really much additional cost in hardware, maybe $2K to $3K total.