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 Post subject: Wild speculation about plane I want....
PostPosted: 22 Oct 2019, 23:52 
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The global flyers was 3700 lbs empty, and 22K lbs full of gas.
It went around the world 25K miles.

Replace the expensive FJ-44 with a much cheaper JT15
(assume 50% more fuel burn)

Replace the area of the fuel booms with a larger central fuselage.
Add 2000 lbs of creature comforts.
Add 1000lbs of people and things.
Make the GW 12500...

One now has a pressurized turbine aircraft with a range of 4000+ miles.
One that gets(even with the JT15) 8 to 10 mpg.

Probably slower than even a slow-tation, but you could go ANYWHERE at reasonabl;e cost.


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The global flyers was 3700 lbs empty, and 22K lbs full of gas.
It went around the world 25K miles.

Replace the expensive FJ-44 with a much cheaper JT15
(assume 50% more fuel burn)

Replace the area of the fuel booms with a larger central fuselage.
Add 2000 lbs of creature comforts.
Add 1000lbs of people and things.
Make the GW 12500...

One now has a pressurized turbine aircraft with a range of 4000+ miles.
One that gets(even with the JT15) 8 to 10 mpg.

Probably slower than even a slow-tation, but you could go ANYWHERE at reasonabl;e cost.


FBO: Amalgamated Aviation how can I help you.
GF Capt: we’ll be in tomorrow and I see snow in the forecast, we’ll need a hangar.
FBO: sure, what size aircraft?
GFC: we’ll need something to fit a a 115’ wingspan.
FBO: ........


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The global flyers was 3700 lbs empty, and 22K lbs full of gas.
It went around the world 25K miles.

Replace the expensive FJ-44 with a much cheaper JT15
(assume 50% more fuel burn)

Replace the area of the fuel booms with a larger central fuselage.
Add 2000 lbs of creature comforts.
Add 1000lbs of people and things.
Make the GW 12500...

One now has a pressurized turbine aircraft with a range of 4000+ miles.
One that gets(even with the JT15) 8 to 10 mpg.

Probably slower than even a slow-tation, but you could go ANYWHERE at reasonabl;e cost.


Better add a PTT in the lav. It does have a lav doesn’t it?


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 Post subject: Re: Wild speculation about plane I want....
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The global flyers was 3700 lbs empty, and 22K lbs full of gas.
It went around the world 25K miles.

Replace the expensive FJ-44 with a much cheaper JT15
(assume 50% more fuel burn)

Replace the area of the fuel booms with a larger central fuselage.
Add 2000 lbs of creature comforts.
Add 1000lbs of people and things.
Make the GW 12500...

One now has a pressurized turbine aircraft with a range of 4000+ miles.
One that gets(even with the JT15) 8 to 10 mpg.

Probably slower than even a slow-tation, but you could go ANYWHERE at reasonabl;e cost.


I've had dreams about an Experimental nice looking Cirrus Jet sort of contraption with a JT15 on the top. This thing exists and is very nice too. https://stratosaircraft.com/

The FJ44 isn't NEARLY as fuel efficient compared to the JT15 as people assume. At normal down low altitudes, it doesn't save any fuel. At 40,000 feet, maybe 20%.


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