Stan,

We have had 2 SR22's over the last 5 years (not at the same time), a 2008 SR22TN and now a 2016 SR22T. I don't keep close track of hourly costs, but if you figure in maintenance, insurance, subscriptions and fuel we are somewhere around $200-$250 per hour at 100 hours per year. That of course does not include hangar or depreciation costs.

Regards,

John

Thanks to all that responded....

-I'm trying to get a handle on *total* maintenance and insurance. I've run enough Beeches over the years, I figure I have a good idea of what a Bonanza/Baron is *likely* to cost.

-hangar, depreciation, pilot costs, etc are fairly easy for me to calculate.

-chute repack is easy.

-the yearly maintenance cost is what is hard to determine. I've gotten figures all over the map


( I do note that no one has checked a box, yet...)

So about $20-25K total.

Fuel 1600 gallons = $6400
Subscriptions = $1600
Insurance = $4000

So maintenance in the $12-$17k/yr range.

Stan,

The last one we had was a 2007 SR22T.

Total maintenance averaged 6000/yr. That included a wastegate and a couple cylinders over the 3 yrs we owned it.

Annuals averaged 4500/yr (included in the 6000 above).

It flew 150 hrs/yr.

I don't think my experience will help since it was on Cirrus provided maintenance during my ownership.

Stan,

I’m on my second SR22T. The first was a 2012 SR22T G3. My current ride is a 2013 SR22T G5. I’m meeting with my assistant tomorrow and will try to see if I can get some actuals then.

Rough ballpark (I will correct tomorrow with better numbers):

- Insurance $4.5K for $2M smooth and $600k hull. I think my G3 cost $3.5k for $1M smooth and $480k hull.
- Annuals $6-9k
- Washes and waxes about $1k / yr
- Oil changes $250-350 every 30 hrs, depending on where I’m having it done.
- Additional maint has varied from $5k-$20k / yr for 330 hrs of flying per year.

Personally I would budget $75-$100 per hour for overall mx including annuals (assuming a utilization of 150 hrs / yr or more).

Note however that I don’t consider myself a typical owner. I’m VERY picky and keep her maintained to a very, very high degree. I do things like dynamically balance the prop, install and tune GAMIs to a high degree and immediately address even the smallest
issues. My birds have run smoother than any others I have flown and also run cooler than 80% of the fleet.

My all in costs to fly my bird are on the order of $350 / hr including finance payments, hangar, Ins, mx, subscriptions, fuel, etc.

You have to be mindful of calendar items and what will fall in your ownership cycle. There should be a list of calendar items in the beginning of the airframe logbook. Things like the O2 bottle inspection, reefing line cutters, chute, seat inflators are some that come to mind. On nearly all these birds, figure that 4-6 cylinders will need to be rebuilt or replaced between 700-1000 hrs. At roughly 2-2.5k per cylinder it’s not too bad.

On the other hand, if your budget allows for it, you can find a newer bird with time left on the factory warranty that will significantly reduce your ongoing mx costs. When I bought my G3, it still had 1 year of spinner to tail warranty left and Cirrus was exceptional at covering non routine mx, including cylinder work.

Feel free to PM or call if you’d like more info.

SR22 N/A Ownership Experience:

I like the way Crandall looks at airplane expenses; fixed versus variable costs. Figure $15k, give or take, fixed costs whether or not the plane flies:

-Annual: flat rate 24 hrs labor x shop rate. About $2,400 for us. Again, this is only the inspection, not the fixes.
-Parachute: $15k every 10 years, give or take.
-Insurance: $4k-$6k
-Subscriptions: $1-2k maybe
-Hangar: variable depending on location

Variable costs around $125-$150 / hour (15 gallons gas, $20-$30 engine reserve, $10 oil change, maintenance at annual or in between).

If you want to get more details talk to Jim Barker at AviationVibes. He's the best: https://aviationvibes.com/

Looking at some G2 partnerships currently, this is very much in line with their total costs.

Thank you gentlemen, good info

First, I want to say that I like Cirrus and am really impressed with what they have done for Aviation. I am not a Cirrus hater.

Just looked at the poll and the maintenance costs are much higher than my experience in an A36 or H35 Bonanza.

The Cirrus’ newer design would seem like it should cost less. So what’s is the deal?

Is the poll not accurate?

Are shops seeing a Cirrus owner and hitting them hard (happens with turboprops and Jets)?

Are Cirrus airframes just more complicated/expensive to maintain than an old Bonanza design?

KJ

If you compare apples to apples, costs will be slightly higher for the Cirrus but won’t be substantially different. So take a Bo with FIKI TKS, TN, A/C, built-in O2, dual alternators and then compare. Engine is the same, which is the majority of the cost for both. The added costs for the Cirrus will be chute related items such as CAPS repack every 10 hrs and reefing line cutters every 6 years.

There’s just a lot of stuff on most SR22s. Dual batteries, dual alternators, dual pressurized mags (on TNs), twin turbos, a/c compressor, dual AHRS, O2 system, TKS system with multiple pumps. With all the capability and equipment come added costs.

My Bonanzas were both non turbo...so apples to apples would be the non turbo Cirrus.

I do think the newer airframe and non retract should save something.

KJ

My buddy has a 2005 Cirrus SR22 which is pretty close to my F33A in costs when adjusted for component age. His annual seems to be a bit less without the retract gear. Some parts seem to be a bit more but the radios and engine are pretty close between planes.

Hey! What happened to Beech suffrage? I don't get to vote!