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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus  Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 20:42 |
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 29 Dec 2014, 22:08 |
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 00:46 |
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Username Protected wrote: What an engineering feat! Take a 30 year old 767, paint it grey, rip the seats out, stick a tank in it. Wow.    A lot of new technologies Adam ,I think it completely new airplane  for example you can't compare old B737 and B737 NG
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 11:43 |
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> What an engineering feat! Take a 30 year old 767, paint it grey, > rip the seats out, stick a tank in it. Wow. More info: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-us ... 1675795011Looks similar, but critical differences. Based on the 767-200 with ... - B787 cockpit/instrumentation. - A improved version of the KC-10 refueling boom - Altered wiring looms (harnesses) for increased separation - Upgrade some of critical wiring looms from double to triple redundant - Airframe & systems alterations to accommodate freight & med-evac missions.
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 11:49 |
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Username Protected wrote: More info: http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/the-us ... 1675795011It combines new technologies as well as technologies from other B767 models. Looks similar, but different. You can hardly call a KC-135 'just another 707'.. I'm not sure about the wisdom of removing a simple window to fly the boom down to the receiving airplane and replace it with a 2MM electronic console and cameras. 
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 14:54 |
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Username Protected wrote: Is anyone calling it a great feat of engineering? Does anyone expect that on a tanker? Boeing took a lot of existing, mature technologies and mashed them together. Faster development cycle, less cost... I realize you said faster (as opposed to fast), but I remember working 767 tanker test flights out of ICT more than five years ago. Is this a different beast?
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 18:59 |
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I don't know details, but my understanding is that there have been other customers for a 767-based tanker. I recall reading that Japan was one of them. I wouldn't be surprised if there were something like a 767-derivative proof of concept model done for the tanker competition as well. Edit: The KC-767: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_KC-767
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 30 Dec 2014, 21:36 |
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I'm not sold on the boomer using a TV instead of him seeing it "in person" through the window. I would think you would lose some depth perception and during air refueling that would be critical, especially in low light or poor visibility conditions. Would love to hear what a boomer would have to say on this subject.
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 31 Dec 2014, 14:37 |
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This was my thought as well. I'm not sure what advantage the fancy new system offers vs. a guy looking out a window, and it adds a lot of cost and complexity. Username Protected wrote: I'm not sold on the boomer using a TV instead of him seeing it "in person" through the window. I would think you would lose some depth perception and during air refueling that would be critical, especially in low light or poor visibility conditions. Would love to hear what a boomer would have to say on this subject.
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Post subject: Re: First fly Boeing KC-46A Pegasus Posted: 01 Jan 2015, 16:15 |
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Username Protected wrote: I'm not sold on the boomer using a TV instead of him seeing it "in person" through the window. I would think you would lose some depth perception and during air refueling that would be critical, especially in low light or poor visibility conditions. Would love to hear what a boomer would have to say on this subject. Still waiting for our "BT Boomer" to weigh in.  RM
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