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Post subject: Re: Bull Moose  Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 16:31 |
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Username Protected wrote: Please let me know the next time you find a brand new, zero time C185 or Beaver, and what it costs!   I'll happily buy you a beer when we can sit down and discuss your C185 annual that cost less than $300! This is the heart of the matter. Experimental is incredibly cheap to build, maintain, and upgrade. The complete avionics package in my new plane, G3x, comm, transponder, autopilot, wiring harness, circuit breakers, and all accessories, was $18,000.00 I am a true believer in the experimental plane business.
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Post subject: Re: Bull Moose Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 18:22 |
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When I was just getting into aviation I wanted a moose and even flew out to the factory. Talked to some guys who had built them and everyone told me don’t do it.
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Post subject: Re: Bull Moose Posted: 28 Jun 2019, 18:34 |
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Username Protected wrote: When I was just getting into aviation I wanted a moose and even flew out to the factory. Talked to some guys who had built them and everyone told me don’t do it. what was their reasoning for not liking them?
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Post subject: Re: Bull Moose Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 00:35 |
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This year was 39 hrs@$35 Cnd. Or $1375 + oil & filter. I dont believe mx is any cheaper on an homebuilt if its done right and you hire out to get it done. Get a low time airframe and redo the rest wirh new parts. Mine as 3000 hrs, new engine, new panel, new paint & leather interior, new floats... At least I could sell it tomorrow if I wanted to. Username Protected wrote: I look at what these guys are spending to build these homebuilts and you can buy a good C185 for the price or a Beaver in some case. Please let me know the next time you find a brand new, zero time C185 or Beaver, and what it costs! I built my aircraft because there was no way I could afford to buy it. (Mmmm I love the smell of that brand new leather interior!) Now that it's flying, I know there's no way I could afford the maintenance on a certificated aircraft that offers similar performance. I'll happily buy you a beer when we can sit down and discuss your C185 annual that cost less than $300!
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Post subject: Re: Bull Moose Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 02:16 |
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Username Protected wrote: An acquaintance has an LS1-powered Sea Bee....His opinion was that a similarly-debilitating failure of the stock "certificated" engine would have taken considerably longer to repair at a cost likely closer to 5-10 times the cost of getting the Corvette engine swapped out. Sure, but the SeaBee's stock engine your comparing it to is a Franklin model unique to that plane, out of production over 65 years, from a company that's been dead over 45 years. Any alternative looks good against that option.
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Post subject: Re: Bull Moose Posted: 29 Jun 2019, 07:12 |
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Username Protected wrote: When I was just getting into aviation I wanted a moose and even flew out to the factory. Talked to some guys who had built them and everyone told me don’t do it. what was their reasoning for not liking them?
Durability was one thing I recall. By the time your done it would take only a bit morenand you could have a known quantity factory built aircraft with resale value.
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