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Always fun stuff on the ramp at my fueler. Was working on the plane this weekend and one of their MD-87 fire tankers was on the ramp getting ready to go to Australia. My 3 year old son was quite enthralled with it. One or two of them lives at the FBO almost all year, hadn't seen one on the main ramp getting prepped to go out.

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I've been following their flight, looks like they've been taking the long way. Oregon to Alaska, to Russia, to Japan, and now to Guam, then to Papua New Guinea, then finally to Australia.

https://flightaware.com/live/flight/N29 ... /RJAA/PGUM

Looks like they can't go any higher than FL200. Definitely the long way.

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 Post subject: Re: MD-87 Fire Tanker
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Why such short, low legs?

Were fuel tanks removed to make room for retardant?


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Why such short, low legs?

Were fuel tanks removed to make room for retardant?
Probably due to lack of adequate damage tolerance and fatigue analysis of the pressure vessel following modifications. They are no doubt restricted to no or low differential pressures.


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... but it would be perfect with pics!

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I'm bad at getting. Rather than be remind of TOS for putting other photos up, I put the link to operator's site.

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Why such short, low legs?

Were fuel tanks removed to make room for retardant?
Probably due to lack of adequate damage tolerance and fatigue analysis of the pressure vessel following modifications. They are no doubt restricted to no or low differential pressures.


The FAQ actually says they can fly pressurized (I was surprised). It doesn't say if max diff is reduced.

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Gear and flaps down, at gross, dodging rocks and flames: sounds like fun!


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Gear and flaps down, at gross, dodging rocks and flames: sounds like fun!



Odd that they have to have the gear down. The DC-10 doesn't.


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