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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 01 Sep 2022, 07:50 |
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Joined: 11/25/11 Posts: 9168 Post Likes: +17163 Location: KGNF, Grenada, MS
Aircraft: Baron, 180,195,J-3
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One of the advantages of NOT having long range tanks in the 180 is the fuel stops. It is amazing how many people won't know what I'm flying and strike up a conversation. With standard 60 gallon tanks, I figure 520 nm and a 100 nm reserve unless I've got a boisterous headwind. I can go to 12,000 and extend that a hundred miles or so. If I were headed to Alaska for a month or so, the "limited" range would present a challenge. But then, I'm not. Jg
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 01 Sep 2022, 14:34 |
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Joined: 10/19/08 Posts: 1493 Post Likes: +1779 Location: Far West Texas
Aircraft: B58, C180, GL 2T1A-2
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Username Protected wrote: One of the advantages of NOT having long range tanks in the 180 is the fuel stops. It is amazing how many people won't know what I'm flying and strike up a conversation. With standard 60 gallon tanks, I figure 520 nm and a 100 nm reserve unless I've got a boisterous headwind. I can go to 12,000 and extend that a hundred miles or so. If I were headed to Alaska for a month or so, the "limited" range would present a challenge. But then, I'm not. Jg Good points, JG: In my earlier posts, I had forgotten to include the "prostatology" of more seasoned aviators: At the three-hour limit, my eyeballs start swimming, and a subtle yellow shade begins to color the horizon. Landing is a welcome relief, and, as you note, nothing generates good conversation better than the 180, especially if I dismount wearing my dad's revered Stetson. Best, TN
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 20 Sep 2022, 21:40 |
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Joined: 06/14/11 Posts: 1095 Post Likes: +593 Location: Portland, OR (1W1)
Aircraft: 1966 Bonanza 35
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Username Protected wrote: That video shows more Skywagons than I have ever seen in one place!
I never fly my 180 without musing after: that is the best airplane I have ever owned.
Jg
John, interesting photo of 6LT. I believe I flew your plane for several months in Pendleton OR in the early 70s. It was on a Forest Service contract and may have a gunshot wound compliments of an inebriated elk hunter. We had two 180s flying so could have been the other one. Forgive my lousy memory if mentioned previously! RH
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 06:59 |
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Joined: 11/25/11 Posts: 9168 Post Likes: +17163 Location: KGNF, Grenada, MS
Aircraft: Baron, 180,195,J-3
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Username Protected wrote: That video shows more Skywagons than I have ever seen in one place!
I never fly my 180 without musing after: that is the best airplane I have ever owned.
Jg
John, interesting photo of 6LT. I believe I flew your plane for several months in Pendleton OR in the early 70s. It was on a Forest Service contract and may have a gunshot wound compliments of an inebriated elk hunter. We had two 180s flying so could have been the other one. Forgive my lousy memory if mentioned previously! RH
My airplane was crumpled early in its life, ground loop It was.repaired with poor documentation and a few things skimmed over and sold to an individual, in the 70's who flew it for many years and who then "gave" it to his sister and brother in law.
After I bought it, I took it to Del Lehman who repaired the repairs extensively.
I think its original color was white base with green trim, but the defining characteristics are two: First, it has a stretcher door, VERY RARE. Secondly, it has rudder trim, even rarer.
Whatever the history, Del got it sorted out and the airplane flies true and very fast for a 180.
Jg
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 21 Sep 2022, 07:54 |
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Joined: 05/22/16 Posts: 58 Post Likes: +44
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Username Protected wrote: To celebrate 70 years of the 180/185 family, a fly in was organised for the past weekend. Great turn out for such a small country! https://youtu.be/gNMsYflA9QQThat video shows more Skywagons than I have ever seen in one place! I never fly my 180 without musing after: that is the best airplane I have ever owned. Jg
Well, I didn't hear a count. In 1994, I co-hosted a 180/185 club convention here in Pagosa Springs, CO. 170 airplanes showed up.
A delightful video.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 07:45 |
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Joined: 05/29/13 Posts: 13588 Post Likes: +10972 Company: Easy Ice, LLC Location: Marquette, Michigan; Scottsdale, AZ, Telluride
Aircraft: C510,C185,C310,R66
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Username Protected wrote: My airplane was crumpled early in its life, ground loop It was.repaired with poor documentation and a few things skimmed over and sold to an individual, in the 70's who flew it for many years and who then "gave" it to his sister and brother in law.
After I bought it, I took it to Del Lehman who repaired the repairs extensively.
I think its original color was white base with green trim, but the defining characteristics are two: First, it has a stretcher door, VERY RARE. Secondly, it has rudder trim, even rarer.
Whatever the history, Del got it sorted out and the airplane flies true and very fast for a 180.
Jg
It is often said that the 180/185 isn’t great until it has been rebuilt after a ground loop. You have a sweet one I’d say.
_________________ Mark Hangen Deputy Minister of Ice (aka FlyingIceperson) Power of the Turbine "Jet Elite"
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 08:47 |
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Joined: 05/11/10 Posts: 12405 Post Likes: +11416 Location: Indiana
Aircraft: Cessna 185, RV-7
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Username Protected wrote: It is often said that the 180/185 isn’t great until it has been rebuilt after a ground loop. You have a sweet one I’d say. I hadn’t heard that, but I like it. Mine was groundlooped in Canada and sat in a hangar for (IIRC) a couple of years before being rebuilt. If rebuilding after a groundlooop is good, I say rebuilding after neglect after a groundloop should be even better!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 10:01 |
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Joined: 08/31/17 Posts: 1592 Post Likes: +623
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What happened? Thought you already had a pponk? That’s big numbers!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 22 Sep 2022, 10:21 |
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Joined: 08/31/17 Posts: 1592 Post Likes: +623
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Is that another pponk or regular 520 or 550 cmon man ! That’s a monster!
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 11:26 |
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Joined: 12/29/12 Posts: 656 Post Likes: +256
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Username Protected wrote: First time into this strip. The Skywagon did not disappoint.
[youtube]https://youtu.be/P2IBaVgx5Zg[/youtube] Beautiful scenery!!! How long is that "runway"? How high is it? Rgs, Patrick
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 11:29 |
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For a 185F, does anyone have a table ( cant find one in my POH) that indicates what the indicated airspeed should be in the different altitudes and power settings?
Thanks,
Patrick.
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Post subject: Re: Flying the Skywagon Posted: 14 Oct 2022, 12:22 |
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Joined: 01/06/08 Posts: 6281 Post Likes: +3075 Location: Pottstown, PA (KPTW)
Aircraft: 1965 Debonair C33
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Username Protected wrote: For a 185F, does anyone have a table ( cant find one in my POH) that indicates what the indicated airspeed should be in the different altitudes and power settings?
Thanks,
Patrick. When I did my mountain flying training, I was taught to land at the same indicated airspeeds as sea level. Use enough power to maintain the altitude you desire.
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