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 Post subject: Saturn V engines at launch
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I have never seen this before. Short video. Pretty awe inspiring...

[youtube]https://youtu.be/DKtVpvzUF1Y[/youtube]


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Super cool, thanks for posting.
I probably spend an hour of every day watching videos like this.

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I saw a video about the camera system used to film these launches. The camera was housed within the concrete pad, out of the line of sight of the engines, and pointed at a heat-resistant mirror made of quartz glass, to avoid being destroyed by at lift-off.. The apertures were amazing, able to film in normal light then close down and still get a good exposure during launch. Camera E8 was used to record the film clip. By Apollo 11 there were 118 cameras on the launch pad (E1 through E118, E for engineering). A good narrative of the clip can be found at:
https://buzzaldrin.com/apollo-11-saturn ... amera-e-8/

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I've been watching quite a few videos of the beginnings of our space program of late.

Shepard
Glenn
Armstrong
To name a few

"You know what" the size of grapefruits.

Think of what was going on in aeronautics, space...

SR71, X15, Lifting bodies...Edwards....



How I wish we were that Country again.


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I've been watching quite a few videos of the beginnings of our space program of late.

Shepard
Glenn
Armstrong
To name a few

"You know what" the size of grapefruits.

Think of what was going on in aeronautics, space...

SR71, X15, Lifting bodies...Edwards....



How I wish we were that Country again.

I miss the greatness of these national achievements, but at some point the government's role becomes that of stepping aside and making room for private/public enterprise to step in- like the commercial launch vehicles and budding space tourism.



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I respectfully disagree.


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I respectfully disagree.

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I'm good with that :bud:


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:D If only all internet fights started and ended so easily... :rofl:

I watched a different shuttle documentary last night that featured some really cool footage inside the hell-hole in the back of the shuttle and all the wiring and tubing and mounts and on and on. Fantasmagorically complex...

In even cooler news... the next FH launch is coming up. #Sxfanboy

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Takes a lot of juice to get 6,500,000 lbs into space, eh?

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Apollo 11 was launched from Mobile Launcher 1 [ML1]. Twenty years later I was involved in converting ML1 to Mobile Launch Platform 3 [MLP3] for the Space Shuttle. ML1 was a one-holer, and MLP3 was a three-holer. Those MLPs were built like Navy ships - all steel with bulkhead doors between compartments. There were three levels. The compartments were purged with nitrogen during tanking and launch. Most of the wiring was also what you would find on a ship - Mineral Insulated [MI] cable with a copper sheath so it could withstand a raging fire. All the heavy work was completed by the time my crew got there, and our job was to install all the plumbing/wiring/systems etc. My particular job was to install and hook up the 67 ton Tail Service Masts. There's a lot of "stuff" in those TSMs. Here's some of the sound suppression water piping on zero-level. You can see one of the camera mounts in the foreground, and another one in the background. The cameras were all purged with nitrogen during the launch countdown.

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Tail Service Masts [TSMs]. I put that American flag up there for the "topping out":
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Apollo 11 was launched from Mobile Launcher 1 [ML1]. Twenty years later I was involved in converting ML1 to Mobile Launch Platform 3 [MLP3] for the Space Shuttle. ML1 was a one-holer, and MLP3 was a three-holer. Those MLPs were built like Navy ships - all steel with bulkhead doors between compartments. There were three levels. The compartments were purged with nitrogen during tanking and launch. Most of the wiring was also what you would find on a ship - Mineral Insulated [MI] cable with a copper sheath so it could withstand a raging fire. All the heavy work was completed by the time my crew got there, and our job was to install all the plumbing/wiring/systems etc. My particular job was to install and hook up the 67 ton Tail Service Masts. There's a lot of "stuff" in those TSMs. Here's some of the sound suppression water piping on zero-level. You can see one of the camera mounts in the foreground, and another one in the background. The cameras were all purged with nitrogen during the launch countdown.



Tail Service Masts [TSMs]. I put that American flag up there for the "topping out":


Please continue! Any more pics or remembrances?

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I've been watching quite a few videos of the beginnings of our space program of late.

Shepard
Glenn
Armstrong
To name a few

"You know what" the size of grapefruits.

Think of what was going on in aeronautics, space...

SR71, X15, Lifting bodies...Edwards....




How I wish we were that Country again.

And everyone waved back then!!!!!!!!! I couldn't help myself.

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It had a crazy amount of power, the total energy is equivalent to a 5kt nuke.


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Please continue! Any more pics or remembrances?
I have literally hundreds of similar "progress photos", and all the negatives (1989 was before digital cameras, remember.) When we finished the job, I offered all the 8x10 photos and negatives to NASA DE [Design Engineering] and, would you believe, they didn't want them? So I took them home and had the negatives scanned. For some reason I've misfiled the best shots somewhere on my hard drives and will have to search harder for them. My favorite is of me kneeling on the "back porch" of the MLP, 200' over the flame trench, hanging a massive American flag down over Side 1 for the triumphant rollback from Pad A. Many of the photos I have are of mundane "work in progress" to refurbish the MLP. I also have the photos of the dismantling of the Apollo "LUT" [Launch Umbilical Tower]. I found those in a trash can at the MLP park site. I took those, too, because I just couldn't stand to see that bit of history lost forever. I hope the statute of limitations has run out on absconding with federal property...


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I've always been amazed by the structure of the first stage which had to support the weight (6 million pounds) of the fueled vehicle, be light enough to fly, and be strong enough so that the hold down bars didn't just rip through it when those F-1s fired up (7.5 million lbs of thrust.)

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