BeechTalk - BT - Initial 100 hours in the PC-12/47E

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Dec 2018, 17:36

There’s the standby bus for com 2 on the ground. Gives you display 3 (the lower MFD), and comm 2. The com 2 antenna is underneath the plane and the signal is weak if you’re far from the tower. TEB isn’t bad (I was giving an example of a cold, busy place were the batteries wouldn’t last sometimes. Listening to some guys getting full route clearances to SoCal), but other places where the tower is a ways away doesn’t work so well.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Dec 2018, 22:32

Kyle, thanks for posting! :thumbup:

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Dec 2018, 23:11

Nice write up Kyle.

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TEB isn’t bad (I was giving an example of a cold, busy place were the batteries wouldn’t last sometimes.

What kind of batteries do your you have? Lead Acid or Nicads? We had similar issues with NiCads and converted to lead acid, since then, we can leave standby bus on for 45min, and fully powered for at least 15min and still have “24 to start”

With the environmental, make sure you have both pilot foot vents open as the temp sensor is in the lower center console up by the pilot feet. If air isn’t flowing through and across there, it can cause some unusual things to happen in the cockpit. In the cabin, I will leave the fan on low to keep the air temp mixed. Otherwise, the circulation fan will stop when the sensor says the cabin is cool enough and the cabin will develop cold and hot spots. Not a big deal to overcome if you leave the fan on low. I usually leave the temp sliders where they are and with doing the above the system does fine. There is a way you can trick the VCS to direct more air to the cockpit in the summer as well.

Lastly, if you thought the FSI Dallas sim was good, go to Denver next time. They brought that new sim online last month or so. I went there a few weeks ago, improved graphics and landing modeling. It’s even better.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Dec 2018, 23:20

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Find me an airplane that can take off from a grass strip, go up to 30,000’, burn 440lb/hr, have a new glass cockpit & FMS, a decent lav, carry a ton of people and luggage, maintain 220 knots on the arrival, 180 to outer market, then make the first turn off on the runway

TBM? A good 30-40 knots faster on basically the same motor.

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Dec 2018, 23:42

Is this meant to be an example of greatness or a near disaster?

Feels like a $7M John Deere tractor making deep ruts in the runway.

The prop clearance on PC-12 always gives me concerns (and yes, TBM as well).

Mike C.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 19 Dec 2018, 23:54

TBM’s are not built for use on grass RWY’s. Tires are small and high pressure. I’ve seen several off the taxiway with one main and it’s not much fun getting it back on concrete. Ask me how I know.

The few videos I’ve seen of a TBM on “grass” it was a very hard packed surface. That’s after talking with the owner too. Pilatus is a different animal and does well on grass. Large tires and low pressure.

Thanks for sharing your experiences in your first hundred hours. pC12’s are nice.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 10:14

Yes Mike is wrong, TBM 900/910/930 is 50 kts faster.

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The TBM is an apples and oranges comparison. Mike C was on point with his negativity though.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 10:18

Username Protected wrote:

The TBM is an apples and oranges comparison. Mike C was on point with his negativity though.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 10:57

Pretty good write up. I have 5200+ hours in pc12s. I do go to 27-28k regularly. Just use an indicated airspeed mode and just limp it up if hot and heavy. All my landing are flap 40, unless there is a compelling reason not to. I’ve never had a battery issue on a pc12, even single battery planes.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 11:48

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Ahhhh. Cool picture!!!!! I feel sorry for whoever is washing that plane.

Nice write up. Never flown on a PC12, but from what I read and hear they are excellent planes.

rgs
Patrick.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 12:42

I have about 2500 hours in the PC-12. Great airplane. The only thing its missing is a 2nd engine.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 13:04

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I have about 2500 hours in the PC-12. Great airplane. The only thing its missing is a 2nd engine.

How are you alive after 2500 hours behind 1 engine? Defies all logic.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 13:07

Username Protected wrote:

I have about 2500 hours in the PC-12. Great airplane. The only thing its missing is a 2nd engine.

How are you alive after 2500 hours behind 1 engine? Defies all logic.

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 13:13

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TEB has GPU. TEB (Meridien) also has a room with a radio in it you can use to call Clearance.

I use a handheld at TEB. Cheap as dirt and works well.

The tower at KTEB is +1 201 288 1889. Can always use your phone....

Username Protected · **Posted:** 20 Dec 2018, 13:15

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The tower at KTEB is +1 201 288 1889. Can always use your phone....

That's the best option of all.

Can you call tower on your phone at any airport to get clearance? I'm sure one "can" but do the controllers frown upon it?